GrapheneOS and forensic extraction of data (2024)

Post by j4hdufd8 » Thu, Sep 11, 2025, 6:09 PM UTC

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You can just follow the official build instructions with a single change: when specifying the build target, change it from -user to -userdebug: https://grapheneos.org/build#setting-up-the-os-build-environ...

Hhmm that seems like a hassle, TBH. One of the things I like the most about GOS is the web installer, and how easy it is to use. If I need a custom build, to run my own server, and sacrifice performance for it, it doesn't seem worth it. It would also be good to know what a debug build entails, how exactly it is "less secure", and so on. Since this is unlikely to be documented by the GOS team, a 3rd party guide would…

Post by j4hdufd8 » Thu, Sep 11, 2025, 6:10 PM UTC

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What is the threat model when enabling root on a phone and why can't it be mitigated? Root is enabled on most servers and desktops and we are surviving fine.

The way apps behave and the user interface to apps and the way they are used, the level of basic visibility and control that the user has moment to moment, is totally different on a phone than on a pc.

Post by j4hdufd8 » Thu, Sep 11, 2025, 6:16 PM UTC

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dsign wrote: post #57

This kinds of make me want to get a pixel and install GrafeneOS there. I'll admit that big companies may have some incentive to protect their users' privacy; but they are an easy legal target. If tomorrow the US or EU pass legislation that mandates a backdoor in all mobile devices, the entire world is screwed.

Very affordable to do. I bought a cheap refurbished Pixel 7 Pro off eBay for $250 and installed GrapheneOS on it. Threw an eSim $20/m plan on it and use it as my phone when I leave the house and go IRL. If I ever lose it or it gets taken while traveling, who cares, its secure af. I just cancel my eSim and buy another phone to install GrapheneOS on all while my main phone Pixel 10 Pro is still safe and at home.

Post by npoc » Thu, Sep 11, 2025, 6:19 PM UTC

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There is no man-made global warming crisis. The earth is in fact one of the coldest periods in history. Thoroughly explained here: https://youtu.be/KDwCUAueLUU What the "man-made global warming crisis" is , is an example of how a corrupt/captured state will overreach and control the people for its own gain through manipulation. Many governments are captured by the now global financial system that has almost unlimited…

Nonsense. The Earth used to be a boiling lump of magma at once point before it cooled, but guess what -- humans can't live on liquid rock. Warmest or coolest is irrelevant over the lifetime of the Earth. What matters is "modern humans". Global warming is indeed real. Effective change doesn't have to cost a dime. An example is forcing people to buy electric cars at some point. The government spends nothing, people jus…

Post by npoc » Thu, Sep 11, 2025, 6:27 PM UTC

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There is no man-made global warming crisis. The earth is in fact one of the coldest periods in history. Thoroughly explained here: https://youtu.be/KDwCUAueLUU What the "man-made global warming crisis" is , is an example of how a corrupt/captured state will overreach and control the people for its own gain through manipulation. Many governments are captured by the now global financial system that has almost unlimited…

I disagree strongly with you on this, but nonetheless I think you've proven the point that the original comment was making i.e. that what constitutes a "good" or a "bad" government is subject to people's views. In my view, a government that does nothing to tackle global warming is "bad". In your view, a government that spends resources on something you think is a fraud, is also "bad". We can't both be right.