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Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by bratwurst3000 »

brettermeier wrote: post #92
pjmlp wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure how much it gets consumed, but many places in Germany rather sell Fritz-Kola only.

But in big supermarket chains you overwhelmingly find Coca Cola or the cheap house brand of the chain, at least when it is about big bottles or sixpacks. Sure, supermarkets like Edeka may also have alternatives like Afri Cola or what those are called, but big masses are Coca Cola.

yes but coca cola lost in the western market. they sell mostly in the poorer countries. dont forget its cheap as shit water with sugar. The premium feeling comes because of marketing

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Post by darkhorn »

apexalpha wrote: post #45

At my (enterprise) job there has been a noticable shift in attitude. We've just decided to use Mistral for OCR, even though everything we currently use is embedded in Azure / IntelDocs or something. Usually any push for EU products would be dismissed because of the initial friction compared to SV products. This seems to have shifted significantly all the way to the top. Everyone seems on board to just accept more fri…

I hope also devolopers get rid of Nginx becaouse it is Russian/American software.

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Post by pjc50 »

irjustin wrote: post #103
jensgk wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not about politics any more. It is about trust.

mmmm these two things are very deeply linked in that politics creates trust and bad policy very easily removes global trust just like personal relationships (literally what we're seeing in the US). i live in asia - indonesian vs vietnam foreign policy (despite problems in domestic policy) has shown how vast the difference in policy can generate foreign trust which lead to manufacturing which lead to a lot more money…

I'd be very interested in hearing about that difference - Indonesia is a country of 281 million people (!) that's almost invisible on the world stage, while Vietnam is a manufacturing success despite being nominally Communist still.

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Post by mentalgear »

bad_user wrote: post #61
oulipo wrote: post #36

Honestly I had long not wanted to do it, but now I started to get a server on Hetzner ($4/mo) and install Dokploy ( https://github.com/Dokploy/dokploy ) `curl -sSL https://dokploy.com/install.sh | sh` and then you have tens of templates for alternative self-hosted websites that you can use (Hoarder for bookmarks, ownCloud to replace Dropbox, etc) I'm not going to keep putting all my notes and personal data in the han…

Self-hosting hundreds of GBs of data isn't feasible, you also need backups and it's a terrible idea for most people. Hetzner does provide managed Nextcloud instances. For bookmarks, I recommend Linkding: https://linkding.link

Or you could just setup a backup with the cloud provider. Even better, a different cloud provider and follow the 3-2-1 rule for backups.

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Post by JdeBP »

GaggiX wrote: post #10

Youtube is the real tough one to replace, BiliBili is probably the only one that comes close to it and it's Chinese.

In addition to the others elsethread, there's also Nebula; which goes for being creator-owned, not suppressive of minority content (which has seen it banned by LG as a consequence), and subscription model rather than advertisement model.

* https://nebula.tv/faq

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Post by pjc50 »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #52
pjc50 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a modern problem in a lot of places, but especially in America that what people see on TV and social media is reality to them - which is heavily distorted. It will have to start reaching their own paychecks in order to have an impact. There are rumors that the administration will stop making Social Security payments, let's see how that goes.

I think what we are seeing in Europe since the invasion of Ukraine, and even more since the end of last year, is similar. People are fed relentless propaganda by the media and are buying it with no question asked.

We've always had a media problem, especially from the Murdoch media and Berlusconi's TV station, but the support for Ukraine is about as organic as it gets when dealing with international events.

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Post by iammjm »

Europeans were perfectly happy to buy American tech und military exports, thus earning U.S. money and making EU technologically and politically dependent from the U.S. - it really was perfect for the U.S. But the US decided that it was actually a BAD DEAL and they wanted to extort even more money and dependence from EU. So now EU is investing in their own tech and military, thus reducing the amount of money US is getting and also reducing EU's dependency on the US, thus forcing EU to invest in their own tech & military, thus becoming a competitor to the US products. Your boy trump did do deliver, is the US now GREAT enough for you yet?

Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by tossandthrow »

pandemic_region wrote: post #107
glimshe wrote: post #13

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Not sure why you are being downvoted so harshly. A bit less globalism in terms of shipping consumer products across the world isn't such a bad thing. Continents becoming more self sustainable and consuming the products they can produce, only importing those things that it really needs. Advocados are not mandatory in our diet.

The down votes are due to the persons inappropriate snarkiness and complete lack of awareness.

The current trade war is initiated by the US, why it is interesting how EU consumers react to that.

This is akin to me hitting you in the face, then you hitting me back - and then I could ponder how you would feel about being hit in the face and how that could teach you a lesson - well, I just saw what happens when I hit you in the face.

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Post by pjc50 »

jwarden wrote: post #71
mixedbit wrote: post #8

The incoming Q1 earning reports will show if these actions are mainstream enough to make a visible dent in companies quarterly earnings. For now, the already reported Tesla sales numbers in Europe are substantially down, but Tesla is the strongest target of the boycott. It will be interesting to see if consumer companies such as Coca Cola, Nike, Amazon also report a substantial drop in EU sales.

When politicians pick fights with leaders of other nations, the people don't have to go along with them.

Social media makes it possible for leaders of nations to pick fights with random individuals on Twitter. Or entire subcultures, nations, or groups of people.
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