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Re: Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript

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Post by yarg »

cxr wrote: post #107
yarg wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn't really a java implementation - they used the APIs, but broke compatibility.

Geez, not this shit again. (One of the many ways you could tell Oracle was doomed in trying to find and convincingly argue a tenable position against Google: half the people half the time argued that Google should be sued for implementing Java, and the other half the time argued that they should be sued for not implementing Java.)

If you can't run jars, it's not a java implementation.

Re: Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript

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Post by dreamcompiler »

WaffleIronMaker wrote: post #38
alberth wrote: post #16

There’s lots of colloquially used names by the general public that technically infringe trademark. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_and_generici... “Aspirin”, “elevators”, “laundromat” are just a few examples. Even “App Store” was trademarked (by Apple).

I had no idea Heroin was originally a trademarked cough suppressant.

As you might expect, it's an exceptionally effective cough suppressant.

Re: Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript

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Post by gmiller123456 »

emmelaich wrote: post #25
gmiller123456 wrote: post #17

The article kinda glossed over how Sun got the trademark: "As a result of this partnership...". What does "this" refer to? Using the same syntax?

It refers to the partnership between Netscape and Sun, per the beginning of that paragraph.

Ah, thanks.

Re: Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript

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Post by Brian_K_White »

sigzero wrote: post #59
cxr wrote: post #53

This is a stupid non-issue. You can go ahead and call it JavaScript despite what Oracle does or doesn't say. Better yet, though: don't call it JavaScript—call it JS. "JavaScript" is and always was a dumb name. "JS" is not only fine, but better—and not because "JS" is particularly good, but because "JavaScript" itself isn't exactly hard to beat. The only thing left to do is for the spec authors (which includes signato…

There is nothing better about "JS" over "JavaScript".

There are at least 3 things better about JS over JavaScript.

Re: Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript

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Post by nailer »

sigzero wrote: post #59
cxr wrote: post #53

This is a stupid non-issue. You can go ahead and call it JavaScript despite what Oracle does or doesn't say. Better yet, though: don't call it JavaScript—call it JS. "JavaScript" is and always was a dumb name. "JS" is not only fine, but better—and not because "JS" is particularly good, but because "JavaScript" itself isn't exactly hard to beat. The only thing left to do is for the spec authors (which includes signato…

There is nothing better about "JS" over "JavaScript".

It’s smaller. The logo already just says JS. It doesn’t boost Java’s reputation. And people in the ecosystem don’t have to worry about oracle threatening them.

Re: Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript

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Post by nailer »

johannes1234321 wrote: post #64
sigzero wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing better about "JS" over "JavaScript".

"JavaSciript" implies it's some scripting language related to Java, which was originally an idea, where it was meant to control Java Applets. But that is not a thing anymore. Thus the name makes no sense. "JS" is just a name only conflicting with my initials.

We can avoid your initials conflicting with anything by abbreviating your name to “JavaScript” now that is available.

Re: Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript

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Post by johnisgood »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #14

I thought this was just another internet rant until I got to the bottom of the page: > Sincerely, > Ryan Dahl - creator of Node.js > Brendan Eich - creator of JavaScript > Michael Ficarra - editor of the JavaScript spec > Rich Harris - creator of Svelte > Isaac Z. Schlueter - creator of npm > Feross Aboukhadijeh - CEO of Socket > James M Snell - member of Node.js TSC > Wes Bos - host of Syntax.fm > Scott Tolinski - h…

It is now 3k more members.

Re: Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript

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Post by lkirkwood »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #95
johannes1234321 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"JavaSciript" implies it's some scripting language related to Java, which was originally an idea, where it was meant to control Java Applets. But that is not a thing anymore. Thus the name makes no sense. "JS" is just a name only conflicting with my initials.

but "JS" implies it is some sort of amalgam of the J and S programming languages - or it doesn't and probably the Java implication doesn't exist anymore either - who really, on hearing the name in a modern context is going to think "hey, it must be a scripting version of that one really old programming language granddad in the office is always reminiscing about"?

... do you think people don't use Java anymore?
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