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Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by marsRoverDev »

throwaway4good wrote: post #94

This is an international site and I think people don’t understand just how big Deutsche Bahn’s problems with delays are and how incredible dissatisfied its customers are. The situation with DB is really unique compared to its neighbors in any direction. While the tech described probably has merits, anyone who has been near DB lately would instinctively go: why are you doing this when you cannot get the basics right?

I fly to germany when I can, or take any other operator's train. I am way, way more familiar with Karlsruhe than I would like to be.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by yau8edq12i »

thih9 wrote: post #5

> MetaWindow, a transparent noise barrier boasting unparalleled sound-absorbing capabilities This is about a physical product. Not a software window; and unrelated to Meta, of Facebook and Instagram fame.

Nobody outside of tech circles actually cares about how facebook's parent company is called this month. It's still facebook, it's still google, it's still twitter. Not meta, alphabet or x.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by oaiey »

constantcrying wrote: post #104
umpalumpaaa wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you dive into the graffiti scene a bit you will start to appreciate all those graffitis. The story behind some of them is super interesting. There is a lot of "competition", "collaboration", and group dynamics involved. It is truly fascinating. I was living in Cologne (Ehrenfeld) for a while in a place with awesome graffiti and every weekend there were people taking pictures "collecting" and documenting the graffi…

There is exactly nothing about defacing public infrastructure which elicits the tiniest spark of "admiration" or "interest" in me. If you want to live out your "artistic ambitions" do it somewhere away from public property.

Unfortunately, life is not black and white. Even without knowing anything about graffiti culture, there is a border between defacing and improving. And graffiti artists are moving over that border back and forth.

Some of the most beautiful art I have seen are graffiti

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by doctor_eval »

yongjik wrote: post #109
umpalumpaaa wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you dive into the graffiti scene a bit you will start to appreciate all those graffitis. The story behind some of them is super interesting. There is a lot of "competition", "collaboration", and group dynamics involved. It is truly fascinating. I was living in Cologne (Ehrenfeld) for a while in a place with awesome graffiti and every weekend there were people taking pictures "collecting" and documenting the graffi…

I'm from a country where they once called up the fucking Interpol when someone vandalized a subway car and ran away. There are many things I complain about my country, but this isn't one of them. You wouldn't admire it if you were in a coffee shop and someone decided to unload their artistic ejaculation on your MacBook. Public infrastructure belongs to the public, no single person is the owner, and you don't get to d…

Are graffiti artists not part of the public?

What makes a billboard, for example, more legitimate than graffiti?

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by constantcrying »

oaiey wrote: post #113
constantcrying wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is exactly nothing about defacing public infrastructure which elicits the tiniest spark of "admiration" or "interest" in me. If you want to live out your "artistic ambitions" do it somewhere away from public property.

Unfortunately, life is not black and white. Even without knowing anything about graffiti culture, there is a border between defacing and improving. And graffiti artists are moving over that border back and forth. Some of the most beautiful art I have seen are graffiti

I have never seen a good looking graffiti which was defacing public property.

Granted, I have seen competent images which obviously were commissioned by building owners. All of it was bad art though and immensely displeasing.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by jamil7 »

throwaway4good wrote: post #94

This is an international site and I think people don’t understand just how big Deutsche Bahn’s problems with delays are and how incredible dissatisfied its customers are. The situation with DB is really unique compared to its neighbors in any direction. While the tech described probably has merits, anyone who has been near DB lately would instinctively go: why are you doing this when you cannot get the basics right?

It’s also gotten so expensive and unreliable that some people I’ve spoken to are just driving again instead whereas years ago they would have always gone by train. I can’t help but feel that the weird ownership model contributes to this and the whole company should just be properly nationalised.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by metters »

croemer wrote: post #49

Terrible press release. The first picture shows an _intransparent_ barrier. Is that a before after picture? And what is "meta technology"?

This [1] is the official press release by Deutsche Bahn. I wanted to post this instead, but it is in German.

[1] https://www.deutschebahn.com/de/presse/pressestart_zentrales...

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by riffraff »

mikeiz404 wrote: post #54

This article goes into a little more detail: https://www.heise.de/en/news/MetaWindow-Laermschutz-an-Gleis... And the PhotonicVibes site is here: https://phononic-vibes.com/metawindow-for-railway/ Here is a demo video for a meta material made by them: https://youtu.be/NElK8qKRrBU?si=CfBjUESlu_XUvnn_

That's a really cool demo!

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by yongjik »

doctor_eval wrote: post #114
yongjik wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm from a country where they once called up the fucking Interpol when someone vandalized a subway car and ran away. There are many things I complain about my country, but this isn't one of them. You wouldn't admire it if you were in a coffee shop and someone decided to unload their artistic ejaculation on your MacBook. Public infrastructure belongs to the public, no single person is the owner, and you don't get to d…

Are graffiti artists not part of the public? What makes a billboard, for example, more legitimate than graffiti?

> Are graffiti artists not part of the public?

In the same sense bike thieves are.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by DeathArrow »

lqet wrote: post #4

> a transparent noise barrier Most rail noise barriers in Germany are completely covered in graffiti [0], so I wouldn't expect them to remain transparent for more than a few weeks. [0] https://ga.de/imgs/93/8/5/9/3/0/9/1/9/tok_8596521c60eeaa53ee...

Isn't vandalism an offense in Germany?
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