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Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by _V_ »

spike021 wrote: post #62
leptons wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only does the "walled garden" keep you safe, the walls are also too tall to escape it.

How's that? All my contacts can be stored locally, photos backed up both on my computer and to a separate service plus iCloud, it's pretty easy to set up Dropbox or Box in-place of iCloud Files. Apple Wallet is handy but it really just stores digital copies (over-simplifying) of my physical cards, any of which I can request a replacement for outside Apple. I don't use Safari but if I did any of its bookmarks/history…

Your contacts can be stored locally but your device will not work if Apple says so as it needs to be "activated" against their servers. And there is no "secondary system". So no, you are completely dependant on Apple and their infrastructure even if you (think you) store data locally.

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Post by walterbell »

dsego wrote: post #42

The thing that scared me recently was two updates that gave me new encryption keys. At first I trusted apple and wrote down the new key. But I became suspicious after the second update and checked online. It seems like it's happening to others, so I used the recommended command-line tool to verify my new encryption key and it didn't verify. Apparently it works after disabling and enabling encryption, but I'm just kee…

> updates that gave me new encryption keys

On iOS or macOS? Was a consent dialog presented before the update was installed?

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by dijit »

could be somewhat related, last week I had a successful login for my Apple ID from a location I didn't recognise (somewhere in central asia).

I noticed because I got a prompt on my phone, which requested I allow (or disallow) the access.

Since I'm pretty good about password hygiene and security, I of course changed my password immediately and force-signed out all my devices.

That being said: if someone has a password list and is using a bot to scan them all; Apple will of course lock-out sign-in attempts.

Not to say what they're doing is right, there's better ways to handle it. But if I were to apply very recent anecdotal data to this even then this is a meaningful conclusion I could draw.

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Post by cjk2 »

coldtea wrote: post #98
cjk2 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not exactly true. I can lift and shift to Google or Microsoft or standalone if I want to in a day easily. I just don’t want to! (I have tested this - always have an exit strategy)

"Even though I paid for this home (laptop) and have all my things in it, I can totally buy another from another realtor if the current locks me out. So joke's on them, it's not exactly a walled garden"

We can all use hyperbole and carefully pick our narratives when we want.

Example: I can live in this nice comfy condo for a sky high fee (Apple) or I can live in a rickety old shed I have to keep fixing for free so I don’t have to pay the ground rent (Linux).

I’d rather live in the condo even if the lease runs out one day.

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Post by sambazi »

goodburb wrote: post #55

Couldn't see older photos/videos in the Photo app. Reminder for any iOS user that needs instant iCloud Photos backups (instead of manual monthly), get a Mac Mini, enable the Photos app, disable optimize for storage and keep it on to keep your memories safe. Always check the recently deleted folder on the Mac every month since iCloud by design is a two-way sync and not a backup, unlike most clouds that are one-way upl…

an old linux laptop with a ubus-rule to rsync DCIM-folder upon device-uid connection would also work and not be dependent on apple products

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Post by baq »

coldtea wrote: post #94
fuomag9 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m so glad it’s illegal for me to sign away my right to sue in Europe https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/unfair-treat...

The truth though is that if a consumer right remains hardly enforceable and impractical to sue and get any real resolution from doing so, corporations can live with consumers retaining it...

Corporations usually get very polite and fast track issues when a consumer rights advocate gets involved.

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Post by jamescontrol »

coldtea wrote: post #103
HaZeust wrote: post #47

To this day, I still get random "Enter your password to continue using iCloud" push notifications on my iPhone with no relevant action to trigger such a notification. My Apple ID uses a unique password, I keep a recovery key, I don't have its login credentials saved anywhere, and it's a dev account; so I have my LLC's DUNS number attached to it. My devices are the only ones listed in my settings portal. I have no ide…

> I have no idea why I get these notifications, lol Perhaps so that someone who found your iphone unlocked can't just keep using it and your iCloud in perpetuity?

I think he means, what causes apple to trigger those notifications. I don’t remember ever seeing that prompt, at least not without myself doing some action to trigger it.

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Post by hx833001 »

vbezhenar wrote: post #25

I'm using my own domain for e-mail, but obviously I need another e-mail for registrar, hoster, etc. I used to use gmail for that, but recently switched to icloud as I thought gmail is too dangerous with Google banning people around. Seems Apple's no better. I have no idea how to untangle this dependency chain. I'm using registrar in my country, so if everything goes wrong, I can just contact them with my ID and hopef…

As long as you can change your Mx records, it doesn’t matter who is hosting your email. If Apple had a problem, you could switch it to any other provider and request the reset email again, etc.

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Post by 1oooqooq »

drstewart wrote: post #102
fuomag9 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m so glad it’s illegal for me to sign away my right to sue in Europe https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/unfair-treat...

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did you ever try to use any USA federal service? you're required an id.me account.

what's that? well some anonymous group saw login.gov, realized the value of the data, and lobbied that it should be open to free capital markets to explore, not the government!

so now if you want to even talk to the irs or veteran service, you need to go to that privately owned id.me site, do a video call, scan all the documents they ask for (even ones without visible anti counterfeit mechanics like your typewritter filled ssn card).

and the best part? right after you create your account, you land on a coupon clipping page that is a facsimile of the garbage pamphlet the usps is forced to shove daily in yout physical mailbox! and among the links on that page are links to Whitepapers about how advertisers can benefit from buying user data from them because it includes gov affiliation like vetetan, taxpayer, etc and bank information!

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Post by amarcheschi »

coldtea wrote: post #94
fuomag9 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m so glad it’s illegal for me to sign away my right to sue in Europe https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/unfair-treat...

The truth though is that if a consumer right remains hardly enforceable and impractical to sue and get any real resolution from doing so, corporations can live with consumers retaining it...

I would say that most of the time people don't even know that not everything written in a contract might be valid in case of a legal dispute. However, once in a while we have nice things, such as requesting to be refunded the windows license https://sistemainoperativo.it/#:~:text=Come%20chiedere%20il%...).

Unfortunately it's in Italian, basically if you don't accept windows (and office) tos you can be refunded, almost nobody knows this except some Linux users. However, if you follow the steps (such as not accepting the tos) you're basically guaranteed a refund or to win the legal dispute

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