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Re: Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing trade secrets

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You expect Google to scan the database of companies in every country continuously to see if employees are executives of them? How would this handle different people who have the same name? Disclosure: I work at Google.

> You expect Google to scan the database of companies in every country continuously to see if employees are executives of them? Um, yes? That’s among the least invasive and cheapest due diligence they could do.

Perhaps just perhaps the task is a bit harder than what you make it sound like

Instances of people sharing the same name are far more common in china than elsewhere. For example there are more than 30 thousand people called "Wang Wei".

The fact is complicated by the fact that the writing systems are different and transliteration errors are commonplace.

Re: Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing trade secrets

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No he’s of Taiwanese descent

"[Patrick] Shyu is from Tokyo, Japan and finished high school at the Tokyo Institute Of Technology. In 2001, he moved to the US to study at ..." https://techiegamers.com/techlead-net-worth/ Do you have different (or more) info?

There was a origin story video that mentioned it - his ex wife was Japanese tough

Re: Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing trade secrets

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After exfiltrating the data, he was offered a job in Chinese AI startup. Whether or not a real startup, or just s Communist party / military company is an interesting question.

All Chinese startups are Communist Party companies, success dictates just *how* tied-in they are.

exactly, this guy understands how business in China works.

Re: Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing trade secrets

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The opsec of the people who eventually get indicted is always terrible. If you wanted to exfiltrate source code or docs, why the heck would you use the victim's own cloud storage product? You would just point a camera at your display and scroll through the desired materials, or use HDMI capture, or something along those lines.

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Re: Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing trade secrets

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post #91

The opsec of the people who eventually get indicted is always terrible. If you wanted to exfiltrate source code or docs, why the heck would you use the victim's own cloud storage product? You would just point a camera at your display and scroll through the desired materials, or use HDMI capture, or something along those lines.

Survivorship bias in action? The only ones we hear about are the ones who are sloppy enough to get caught. The people who know how to not get caught, doesn't get caught so we never hear about them.

Re: Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing trade secrets

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Not for nothing but plenty of other companies do pretty much just this, for example in defense. Surely Google of all companies should be able to do a simple search like that on a regular basis.

In highly regulated national security impacting industries like defense, that makes sense. Google has not developed that rigor yet, although it's becoming obvious that their business has high national security implications now.

I don't think Google has ever had rigor, in anything except possible things which directly affect uptime. It seems to be a systematic problem - look at their history with chat apps for example. Great for hackers - both ones working for Google and ones working for other governments, apparently.

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"Muslim-ban" is not accurate because it did not ban on the basis of being Muslim or not. It was a ban on travel to the US for 90 days from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. There are many predominately Muslim countries it didn't include and it was specifically about travel from those countries.

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