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Pretty sure that guy's Japanese.
No he’s of Taiwanese descent
Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing trade secrets
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question: Can we presume he knew he was doing something wrong?
After exfiltrating the data, he was offered a job in Chinese AI startup. Whether or not a real startup, or just s Communist party / military company is an interesting question.
Eventually tech leaders will stop hiring Chinese nationals. This keeps happening again and again.
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#23Good time to post this article again: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/z4MDDwwnWKnv2ZzdK/the-agi-ra...
China understands there is a real risk of the US gaining an absolute advantage in A[G]I development. It shouldn't surprise anyone that they will use all kinds of 'greyzone methods' to bridge this gap.
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> Hiring a Chinese national and giving them access to trade secrets To be fair, this would have been prohibited if we subjected AI to ITAR restrictions. That said, do we know Ding was a Chinese national?
If he's not a Chinese national, that makes the discussion much more likely to get me censured when I suggest the obvious corrective remediation.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question: Can we presume he knew he was doing something wrong?
After exfiltrating the data, he was offered a job in Chinese AI startup. Whether or not a real startup, or just s Communist party / military company is an interesting question.
All Chinese startups are Communist Party companies, success dictates just *how* tied-in they are.
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#27So he was already CEO/CTO of 2 China companies while still working in google. And these information are publicly available right after he registering them. Seems a management disaster of google.
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Serious question: Can we presume he knew he was doing something wrong?
I've had an intern uploading code to his G Drive and after talking to him I concluded he was not malicious, just dumb.
That said you can't claim innocence for not knowing some law, plus any half serious company makes you sign cyber security / IP stuff during the hiring process (ofc one is entitled to sign contracts without reading them).
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> The US vastly benefit from Chinese immigration and most Chinese aren’t spies. However, it’s interesting to notice the damage one person can have, arming our most potent adversary with advanced technology.
How would you quantify all this? I mean I think we're all on the same page about not wanting to reduce people to their race. That's a good sentiment. But do you have data on any of these claims? When you observe that Chinese nationals are uniquely positioned to arm "our most potent adversary with advanced technology", I dont think you can just handwave such damages away.