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I know an Apple worker (don't know what you mean by CS), and he's worked there for decades and from all reports they do treat the employees they value very well. Not sure about the more expendable ones though. In any case, my comment was a little tongue in cheek.
"Apple worker" sounds licentious.
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That's because... everything was made from de beginning to push people to go to the App Store.
The App Store didn’t even exist until the iPhone 3G. Everything was suppose to be a web app until everyone, including HN, bitched about the lack of native apps. Now here you all are 15 years later bemoaning what you have helped create.
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Just to make a supporting argument to this... I introduced my son to neal.fun this morning and he asked "can you make this easier for me to get to?" and I was like, "sure, there's some way to pin it to the home screen." I know this feature exists and I've even written code to support this feature ... yet I spent nearly 5 minutes looking for the button. Hiding it in the share sheet is downright stupid.
Apple could choose to make the option front and center. Firefox has it as a primary option on the main menu. The reason that devs don't target or improve it is the friction Apple (and Google to a degree) they put in front of utilizing PWA/web apps.
In addition to that, Android supports PWAs in the Play Store. It supports other browsers, and doesn't restrict them from installing PWAs or providing alternate installation flows.
I really don't understand the equivalency you're drawing here. Apple are a uniquely bad guy in this respect, it's not a difference of degree, it's a difference of kind.
He's right. Apple has been strangling web app progress on iOS for many years. They wanted to ensure that web apps could never compete with native apps on the App Store, because they can extract their 30% fee. Now that Apple are forced to permit third party browser engines, web apps would suddenly be a lot more powerful. Apple just won't have that, so they're disabling a useful feature for everyone. I think this will…
As much as I would love to agree, the general population really does not care about features like "home screen web apps". Nobody outside of HN even knows what they are. Everyone just goes on the app store and downloads random website app. Even if it is just a browser app that renders a website. Apple would have to eliminate something that people actually care about for any boycott Apple to happen.
This is always being thrown people when mentioning web app. How about let's start educating normal people outside of HN. Mozilla, Google, dump a bunch of campaign on it. Most app can be web, and don't need to be native.
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Precisely. Stop supporting iOS and watch their attitude change. Fact is these companies whine but don’t pull their apps.
Because their hands are pretty much tied. That's called monopoly position.
The majority of people in the world use Android not Apple. The majority of the people in the world are also poor and not good marketing targets. These two groups have a Venn diagram that’s nearly a perfect circle.
Does Apple think its shenanigans are going to precipitate a backlash against EU regulation? Because every time I read about a new round of BS my blood boils and my attitude against Apple and other huge anticompetitive corporates just hardens.
Why? You have the option to avoid Apple completely and not have them interfere in your life what so ever, and it's an easy choice. Just don't buy their products. Your blood should boil for things that you can not easily avoid in life. You're wasting your passion on completely meaningless things. In the end, it's just phones and computers.
What are people's thoughts on Apple's argument: >Addressing the complex security and privacy concerns associated with web apps using alternative browser engines would require building an entirely new integration architecture that does not currently exist in iOS and was not practical to undertake given the other demands of the DMA and the very low user adoption of Home Screen web apps. >In short, Apple is saying it kn…
The homescreen engine has always been dodgy — it has different bugs than Safari app, so it seems to be a different version/fork of WebKit. It was always against their interest to support this feature too well, so it's probably old and full of tech debt. I believe them when they say it would require a rewrite to work safely in a browser-agnostic way, but that sounds bizarrely like "complying with the law was too much…
Probably more like an unfunded, no value add venture.
Let's say I want to make a little dashboard for a home server that I can view on my iPhone in full screen. If I live in the EU, how am I supposed to add it to my home screen? I can't put it on the App Store even if I wanted to - it's for a local server so it won't pass review. I can't just use a local debug build - those expire after a week or so. What can I even do here?