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Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by anotherhue »

mrpippy wrote: post #89
anotherhue wrote: post #6

I wanted to use Music on a windows PC that has a good DAC attached and I was politely told that they don't support security keys on windows. No alternative. No 'get a code on another device', just PFO.

You should try it with the latest version: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/06/apple-id-security-keys-...

Thank you for finding this.

Edit: nope, "security keys not supported on icloud for windows"

Edit edit: need to first install the latest icloud for windows (which I don't want but fine). Seems to provide an auth layer so now it works.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by tfandango »

orev wrote: post #107
tfandango wrote: post #79

I hope ability to get photos off iPhones is improved. I can NEVER get it to fully work for more than a few pictures. I know we are supposed to sync them to the cloud now but it's nice to be able to put them on the big drive on the PC sometimes too.

I’ve noticed this and it seems like the biggest factor is the transfer setting in Photos. I have constant issues (e.g. file copy stops after a few files, can’t see all files in the folder, or phone just disconnects) if (under Transfer to Mac or PC) it’s set to automatic, but when changing it to keep originals, the files copy without any problems. I assume the automatic setting makes the iPhone try to convert between…

Thanks for the tip. It seems I have it set to "keep originals", if I recall this is one thing I changed when having this issue. It has been some time though since I last tried it (because I hate it so much). I'll give it another go sometime soon.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by tfandango »

lizknope wrote: post #98
tfandango wrote: post #79

I hope ability to get photos off iPhones is improved. I can NEVER get it to fully work for more than a few pictures. I know we are supposed to sync them to the cloud now but it's nice to be able to put them on the big drive on the PC sometimes too.

I've been using ifuse on Linux for years. https://github.com/libimobiledevice/ifuse I type "ifuse /mnt/iphone" and there is a DCIM/###APPLE dir with the images and videos where I use "cp -a" to copy the files to my computer

I do have a linux machine again now, I may try this next time.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by iggldiggl »

ghaff wrote: post #56
chrisjj wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the problem with using one app for all audio files? I don't see why a user should be forced to use different apps depending on the type of the audio content.

Podcats (I use Overcast) are pretty different from music and I wouldn't generally intermix them. And you already have Library and Streaming modes of Apple Music so podcasts would be yet another mode.

The things is that iTunes also allows you to manually reclassify you media files as a podcast, and I found (still do, actually) that very useful for managing my collection of radio comedy scrounged together from all sorts of places (downloads from BBC iPlayer, downloads from various places collecting that kinds of shows, a very few genuine podcasts). That way I could keep them out of the main music library, gain the listened/unlistened episode display and playback position tracking, and still easily sync them over to my phone [1].

Without iTunes, I would have to set up some fake local podcast feed on my computer to get those episodes into the podcast app of my choice instead.

[1] Using iSyncr + Rocket Player after switching from an iPod to an Android phone – sadly those apps were sold by the original developer two years ago, though, and the new owners are seemingly just trying to turn them into a cash grab, so I cannot recommend them any more, though for now the old versions sort of keep working, albeit you need a rooted phone to work around some issues.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by iggldiggl »

gruez wrote: post #8
donatj wrote: post #2

iTunes is sticking around on Windows but will just be for audio books and podcasts? That’s absolutely bizarre.

...only if you also install apple music or apple tv. If you don't you can still use it for music/videos. >When you install the Apple Music or Apple TV app, you can only use those apps for your music, TV shows, and movies; you can continue to use iTunes to listen to your audiobooks and podcasts.

While offline playback will be unaffected, I wonder how long iTunes's connection to the iTunes store ecosystem will keep working and whether you'll eventually be forced to install Apple Music for accessing the iTunes store?

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by turquoisevar »

anotherhue wrote: post #111
mrpippy wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should try it with the latest version: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/06/apple-id-security-keys-...

Thank you for finding this. Edit: nope, "security keys not supported on icloud for windows" Edit edit: need to first install the latest icloud for windows (which I don't want but fine). Seems to provide an auth layer so now it works.

Do you have v15 installed?

Not sure if it’s already pushed out.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by al_borland »

donatj wrote: post #2

iTunes is sticking around on Windows but will just be for audio books and podcasts? That’s absolutely bizarre.

I assume this is to cover the gaps in the new apps. In macOS they moved extra stuff to Finder. It seems the device sync app might make more sense on Windows. Maybe that will happening in time.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by Kwpolska »

bee_rider wrote: post #104
rchaud wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Messy branding is now par for the course at Apple. The iPad line alone is something out of a Dell catalog: iPad, iPad 10thgen, iPad Air, iPad Mini, iPad Pro.

The only one that really sticks out as odd there is the 10th gen. Basic, Air, Pro is also their laptop lineup, right—it has been for quite a while, and nobody has complained. Mini seems like a reasonable and easy to interpret addition give tablet use-cases. I’m guessing the 10th gen is the one with the super long support lifetime or something like that? That’s a slightly weird iPad-ism.

> Basic, Air, Pro is also their laptop lineup

In the most recent iteration of this lineup, the 12-inch MacBook was comically underpowered, especially for its price, there was no good reason to purchase that instead of an Air or a Pro. This was also quite short-lived, with an official discontinuation after four years.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by thesuitonym »

bni wrote: post #78

It's strange that Apple keep this Windows software around. Is there really a lot of people on Windows that actually use this?

iPhone/iPad is a gateway to the Apple ecosystem. If a Windows users couldn't share their media with their phone, they may never buy any Apple hardware at all.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by haunter »

tfandango wrote: post #113
lizknope wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using ifuse on Linux for years. https://github.com/libimobiledevice/ifuse I type "ifuse /mnt/iphone" and there is a DCIM/###APPLE dir with the images and videos where I use "cp -a" to copy the files to my computer

I do have a linux machine again now, I may try this next time.

On Windows you can just open the File Explorer and access the iOS photos
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