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How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

#53

As long as I can still move pictures from wife's phone. Still, this is such an annoying change. As in, Itunes on PC always sucked, but it did not occur to me that Apple would want to actively make it worse. edit: This reminds me. Wasn't there a FOSS project that has most of Itunes functionality?

They didn't make it worse. If you don't want to change, don't install the replacement apps.

How is preventing you playing music if you install another app not worse?

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

#54
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What is exactly the problem with individual apps in your opinion? This not a weird jab, I'm actually curious.

Perhaps its the elder millennial in me, when I am on my desktop PC, I like to keep my taskbar clean and not have all these windows scattered about to keep me entertained, gives me a feeling of clutter. I like to have one app that just does everything for me when it comes to audio entertainment, I like the Spotify app for that reason.

Maybe it was a function of iTunes rather than an integrated app but I always found it sort of a mess. As I recall the only reason I started using it for music was that syncing from my other music library app just got too cumbersome.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

#55

I like how they fail to mention that the Apple Music App on Windows is hot garbage riddled with bugs. A few weeks ago they broke reordering of upcoming songs, the "play next" feature and I don't know what else. I have submitted bug reports with exact steps, reproducible on at least two accounts on five different conmputers. Haven't heared back, doubt I'll ever will. Anyone can recommend a streaming service that isn't…

Cider[0] is a client I've seen for Apple Music. It seems to have pretty good reviews. It is paid software, but it's a one time purchase of $4. Worth a shot!

0: https://cider.sh/

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is exactly the problem with individual apps in your opinion? This not a weird jab, I'm actually curious.

What's the problem with using one app for all audio files? I don't see why a user should be forced to use different apps depending on the type of the audio content.

Podcats (I use Overcast) are pretty different from music and I wouldn't generally intermix them. And you already have Library and Streaming modes of Apple Music so podcasts would be yet another mode.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

#57
post #52

So what is the best app these for listening to your own music collection? VLC?!?

Does Apple Music (the app) no longer support that? It does on macOS, even without a subscription. Also, foobar2000 of course.

Apple Music is mostly fine. And as long as you're going to sync to an iPhone, it probably doesn't make sense to use a different app. (Though I use VLC for other things.)

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

#58
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I recently tried Apple Music and then gave up because it didn’t support podcasts and the podcast apps that exist in the Apple ecosystem aren’t as good as Spotify

What are "podcast apps" for ? I thought podcast is just an mp3 that you download and listen to.

Podcast apps let you subscribe to feeds, so it automatically downloads new content when available. Some also have quality-of-life features like speeding up playback, syncing progress between devices, and letting you view text data that accompany the audio (e.g., episode descriptions and links).

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

#59
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is exactly the problem with individual apps in your opinion? This not a weird jab, I'm actually curious.

Perhaps its the elder millennial in me, when I am on my desktop PC, I like to keep my taskbar clean and not have all these windows scattered about to keep me entertained, gives me a feeling of clutter. I like to have one app that just does everything for me when it comes to audio entertainment, I like the Spotify app for that reason.

Interesting, as an older millennial I hate the podcasts in Spotify.

But that's probably with the forcing podcasts on me when I don't want them rather than anything intrinsic.

I listen to music when I work because it blocks stuff out and I don't need to actually listen to it.

Podcasts catch my attention when one of hosts says something like:

Wait, you can't say that. You'll offend all the furries.

Then I'll have to rewind and listen to understand why they are talking about furries on an F1 podcast. But then it turns out I misheard it anyway.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

#60

I like how Apple's page starts with "When iTunes was originally released, it had everything you needed to be entertained. Now, there are individual apps for all your media" - yes, exactly! That's the problem!

I disagree. It is nice to have separate apps for Music, Podcasts and audiobooks. You know, do one thing well. Spotfiy tries to do all of these and it's a bloated mess.

Unlike Apple, which can have all their apps installed by default on their OS, Spotify doesn’t have such luxury. They’re lucky if users take the time to download and install their one app let alone asking them to install multiple apps.

I’m sure if Spotify had the choice they would split things into separate apps. Having separate apps makes it much easier to deploy changes since you don’t need to coordinate (as much) with other teams for every release.

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