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I've been wearing AVP extensively these past few days, experimenting with using it for all kinds of things. As of now, I don't find it more efficient or seamless at doing much of anything. 1. There is no window management whatsoever. It would be great if I could stick apps to each other, or tile them in a frame, but I can't do that. I also can't stack windows—if I put one window behind another, the only way to access…

> Apple hasn't launched a first-gen product this limited in use since the original iPhone

- Apple Watch Series 0 was so underpowered it was borderline unusable.

- OSX 1.0 was a buggy, slow, feature-less mess of an operating system.

It definitely doesn't seem like Apple minds launching way too early.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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How long I wonder before Apple is able to link multiple Vision Pros together so that people in the same physical space can share the same augmented reality? Imagine if when he says hello to his partner, she's also wearing a Vision Pro and is able to walk around their house seeing the same reality. That would make the VP much less isolating which is one of the main "I'd never use this" reasons I have against it. I cou…

Apple SharePlay has an SDK and was likely built for Vision Pro.

https://developer.apple.com/shareplay/

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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This is starting to me remind of when everyone was talking about replacing their Desktop/Laptop with an iPad and a Bluetooth keyboard for their work machine. I don't know anyone who was able to do so successfully.

The comparison isn't right.

Because in this scenario it's a Mac monitor with secondary iPad windows.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Looks cool... but man can these companies just stop it with the fake marketing content already? Between this and the Gemini demo its just so cringe to see obviously staged content. Dude just happens to walk by his partner who isn't doing any real work, but is instead playing with a tennis ball at exactly that moment, and who just randomly decides to immediately and without hesitation fucking yeet it at the guy wearin…

what part of this was fake? Gemini video was sped up and cut and added voice. This is just a recording of the headset with no editing?

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reminds me of some dystopian science fiction film where everyone is immersed in a shiny AR layer, while reality without the layer is dirty and derelict. Scene: A fancy nightclub, pretty people dancing to very loud music, surreal virtual objects and effects everywhere. Swap to reality: The music turns off. It's no longer night. An old, run-down building. Headset people in shabby clothes dancing to inaudible sound…

Sure, I'm cognizant of that too: Ready Player One, The Matrix, Neuromancer. But I honestly don't think that's our most likely future dystopia. For me it's a toss up between Brazil and Idiocracy.

Also: Don't Worry Darling.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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The passthrough looks and works better than expected, but also a bit fuzzier than expected. I do appreciate how crisp the "desktop" windows look though.

The pass through is indeed very fuzzy. All the reviews where people state “it’s like looking through clear safety goggles”, etc. are bogus. It’s like looking through a cell phone camera from about 10 years ago. Especially in low light (e.g. a home office.) The actual AR content, though, is amazingly sharp.

This is the part that is going to be fascinating.

Is Apple going to build their own version of a full frame / medium format sensor in order to improve the low light performance over the next decade. Because that would have major implications for the photography industry if that were ever to appear in an iPhone.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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Are these in every apple store to demo or are they so low volume they're all for sale?

Demoing is hard because of the vision prescription (if needed) and the face scan required to get the light seals right. These things aren’t really designed for sharing.

But you can buy one and if it isn’t what you hoped for, you can return it within 14 days. In my experience, returns at Apple are quick and easy.

Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]

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I've been wearing AVP extensively these past few days, experimenting with using it for all kinds of things. As of now, I don't find it more efficient or seamless at doing much of anything. 1. There is no window management whatsoever. It would be great if I could stick apps to each other, or tile them in a frame, but I can't do that. I also can't stack windows—if I put one window behind another, the only way to access…

> There is no window management whatsoever. FYI, Immersed is planning on releasing their app for visionOS. According to their employees on Discord, they're expecting that to happen around the end of February. Immersed is by far the best "virtual desktop" app I've ever used, so I expect it will solve most or all of the issues with Apple's implementation at launch. I'm guessing Apple will catch up eventually, but for n…

>Immersed is by far the best "virtual desktop" app I've ever used

I'll second that. I have a Quest Pro and I really like Immersed a lot. I wish my headset were more comfortable so I could work in that environment more. It's really enjoyable from a software perspective. The hardware on the Quest Pro just isn't there yet.

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