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Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by tentacleuno »

doc_gunthrop wrote: post #75
aaarrm wrote: post #66

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You seem to know what you're talking about, so do you have any suggestions for good font choices for programming in particular?

Not OP but there were some decent ones in the comparison box w/ the slider (such as Source Code Pro). Deja Vu Sans Mono is another good one.

I daily Inconsolata (well, technically the ligaturized version). I find it extremely legible, and most importantly, it's easy on the eyes. A lot of programming fonts tend to be too angular for my tastes (I've tried SF Mono and plenty others, and settled on Inconsolata.)

Really, programming fonts are down to taste -- there's not objectively a best one; for an example of that, look in this thread: some people like Victor Mono, whilst others dislike it, and that's fine!

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by rubjo »

pdpi wrote: post #84
rubjo wrote: post #45

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Typeface designer here. Thanks for trying the font and having lots of thoughts about it. I guess the point is that it wasn’t first and foremost designed to follow as many font design principles as possible. If that’s what’s important to you, pick a font that follows as many of these principles as possible. :D In the end, I guess I don’t really care whether I use 157ms to parse a sentence instead of 158 - although to…

The roman style is pretty legible, yes, and I . The italic, though? It's not a 157ms vs 158ms difference, I legitimately struggle reading it at all, which is a shame because I really like the roman style.

Well, then I guess you can just not use the italic style, or just substitute it for the oblique alternative, or choose not to use slanted style at all, maybe…?

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by rubjo »

aeturnum wrote: post #103
romwell wrote: post #86

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Feels like your response could be abbreviated for clarity: >Thanks for trying the font and having lots of thoughts about it [...] In the end, I guess I don’t really care

It's a shame this is all you got from the response because I think what they said is actually a lot more interesting: > Thanks for trying the font and having lots of thoughts. You're right that it doesn't follow all of the guidelines to maximize readability! There are other fonts that do that but mine does not. That's not what I'm interested in and it doesn't bother me - I find it to be perfectly readable. I think an…

Thanks for understanding :)

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by KerrAvon »

A typeface designed for programming should have _very_ visually distinct bracket and parentheses {([])} characters. Intel’s new typeface and the GitHub family that was just released both do this very well. I’d advise the Victor Mono author to take a look at how those fonts do it.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by pindab0ter »

RadiozRadioz wrote: post #22

Sorry, ligatures are not for me. I don't get it. Why would you ever want symbols to collapse like that in a functional monospace font? Just looks like a bunch of funky unicode characters peppered throughout my source. And my caret can travel _inside_ one of these special marks? No thanks.

You don't have to use them.

I don't see what these kinds of comments add. You see them in every discussion on a font that has them.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by rubjo »

romwell wrote: post #102
rubjo wrote: post #69

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Heh well actually I made the font for my own use. Some others have liked it, others have critized features of it, like the italics and the ligatures. (Features one can easily disable in most sane editors, I might add). I’ve been using it daily ever since I made it, and I like to believe it makes me effective and happy. No one should obviously pick a font which is hard to read for them of slows them down. This font do…

>Heh well actually I made the font for my own use. Perhaps you should change the banner on the github page to reflect that. Currently, it says "the best programming font"; whereas your comment implies it is merely "the best font for rubjo ". Same goes for your Patreon page. When you take other people's money, you say: >It means a lot to me that you choose to support me this way. With your contribution, I can cover so…

You might be firing yourself up a little too much over an opinionated font which is being offered for free. The web site banner and slogans are ehh lets say intentionally and super-obviously grand, if you get what I mean. (?)

I shared it so anyone else who likes it also can use it. It works really well for me. A few others have told me the same. That’s more than enough for me. It’s great that you have found something else that works for you. Peace, man! :)

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by sombragris »

rubjo wrote: post #45
crazygringo wrote: post #21

I'm generally pretty supportive of new typefaces, but this one strikes me as... not very legible. The x-height is so uncommonly high it makes it genuinely difficult to distinguish between uppercase/ascending and lowercase letters at a glance (e.g. 'U' vs 'u', or 'h' vs. 'n'), and similarly the descender is so tiny it makes it hard to distinguish certain letters at a glance (e.g. 'q' vs 'p'). The whole point of large-…

Typeface designer here. Thanks for trying the font and having lots of thoughts about it. I guess the point is that it wasn’t first and foremost designed to follow as many font design principles as possible. If that’s what’s important to you, pick a font that follows as many of these principles as possible. :D In the end, I guess I don’t really care whether I use 157ms to parse a sentence instead of 158 - although to…

Hey, thanks for designing it. Right now I'm using Iosevka but I loved Victor Mono, was my main terminal typeface for a long time, and I loved the high x-height which enhanced readability even at low sizes.

Even today it's one of my recommendations for anyone looking for a coding/monospace font.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by rubjo »

enriquec wrote: post #71
zare_st wrote: post #61

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Well you made it explicitly for programming purposes. I am not a poll house or a public opinion evaluator. But handwritten cursive and programming I wouldn't put in a same sentence. The ligatures and the height you choose really don't go well with a lot of popular programming languages. I'm not sure what aspect of programming do you believe is "inhumane" so you have desire to introduce "humanity" through design choic…

I've been programming 20 years and I use one of these combined sans/cursive font setups. I like less legibility for certain parts of the code - like keywords/decorators that I can recognize instantly but want to skip reading/parsing when I want, for instance, to just read function names in collapsed code. I typically set stuff like this to a color closer to the BG too.

Yeah, this point exactly - intentionally altering or even subduing some parts of the code using color or style to actually recognize blocks of code more quickly. Maybe everything being at 110% legibility all the time makes the whole more time-consuming to scan sometimes. Maybe.
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