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Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#61

Post by zare_st »

rubjo wrote: post #45
crazygringo wrote: post #21

I'm generally pretty supportive of new typefaces, but this one strikes me as... not very legible. The x-height is so uncommonly high it makes it genuinely difficult to distinguish between uppercase/ascending and lowercase letters at a glance (e.g. 'U' vs 'u', or 'h' vs. 'n'), and similarly the descender is so tiny it makes it hard to distinguish certain letters at a glance (e.g. 'q' vs 'p'). The whole point of large-…

Typeface designer here. Thanks for trying the font and having lots of thoughts about it. I guess the point is that it wasn’t first and foremost designed to follow as many font design principles as possible. If that’s what’s important to you, pick a font that follows as many of these principles as possible. :D In the end, I guess I don’t really care whether I use 157ms to parse a sentence instead of 158 - although to…

Well you made it explicitly for programming purposes. I am not a poll house or a public opinion evaluator. But handwritten cursive and programming I wouldn't put in a same sentence.

The ligatures and the height you choose really don't go well with a lot of popular programming languages.

I'm not sure what aspect of programming do you believe is "inhumane" so you have desire to introduce "humanity" through design choice.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#62

Post by admax88qqq »

redleader55 wrote: post #50
rubjo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typeface designer here. Thanks for trying the font and having lots of thoughts about it. I guess the point is that it wasn’t first and foremost designed to follow as many font design principles as possible. If that’s what’s important to you, pick a font that follows as many of these principles as possible. :D In the end, I guess I don’t really care whether I use 157ms to parse a sentence instead of 158 - although to…

I'm surprised you as a typeface designer are not interested in what end-users(aren't they the customers?) are saying about the font. This means, assuming good intent, that's not where the money is coming from. Can someone shed some light on who pays typeface designers and what are the incentives like?

I think he meant he's the designer of _this_ typeface. Not in general. And for _this_ typeface as a labour of love why shouldn't they disregard user feedback when they made it for their own purposes.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#64

Post by karmakaze »

rubjo wrote: post #52
karmakaze wrote: post #4

Sorry but that script 'true' doesn't belong in a programming font--monospace only.

I have Booleans in italic (blasphemy!) :D and find it is immediately recognizeable that they are spelt correctly when the editor formats them that way. YMMV.

I have no problem with italics. What I object to is one that appears cursive (script) and calls itself a programming font.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#65

Post by junon »

crazygringo wrote: post #21

I'm generally pretty supportive of new typefaces, but this one strikes me as... not very legible. The x-height is so uncommonly high it makes it genuinely difficult to distinguish between uppercase/ascending and lowercase letters at a glance (e.g. 'U' vs 'u', or 'h' vs. 'n'), and similarly the descender is so tiny it makes it hard to distinguish certain letters at a glance (e.g. 'q' vs 'p'). The whole point of large-…

This is exactly my thought. I can't tell what's uppercase or lowercase without really analyzing each word.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#66

Post by aaarrm »

crazygringo wrote: post #21

I'm generally pretty supportive of new typefaces, but this one strikes me as... not very legible. The x-height is so uncommonly high it makes it genuinely difficult to distinguish between uppercase/ascending and lowercase letters at a glance (e.g. 'U' vs 'u', or 'h' vs. 'n'), and similarly the descender is so tiny it makes it hard to distinguish certain letters at a glance (e.g. 'q' vs 'p'). The whole point of large-…

You seem to know what you're talking about, so do you have any suggestions for good font choices for programming in particular?

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#67

Post by aaarrm »

zare_st wrote: post #61
rubjo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typeface designer here. Thanks for trying the font and having lots of thoughts about it. I guess the point is that it wasn’t first and foremost designed to follow as many font design principles as possible. If that’s what’s important to you, pick a font that follows as many of these principles as possible. :D In the end, I guess I don’t really care whether I use 157ms to parse a sentence instead of 158 - although to…

Well you made it explicitly for programming purposes. I am not a poll house or a public opinion evaluator. But handwritten cursive and programming I wouldn't put in a same sentence. The ligatures and the height you choose really don't go well with a lot of popular programming languages. I'm not sure what aspect of programming do you believe is "inhumane" so you have desire to introduce "humanity" through design choic…

They specifically noted the principles they were designing for in the link if you scroll down, so you can see what their goals were.

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#68

Post by dorfsmay »

RadiozRadioz wrote: post #22

Sorry, ligatures are not for me. I don't get it. Why would you ever want symbols to collapse like that in a functional monospace font? Just looks like a bunch of funky unicode characters peppered throughout my source. And my caret can travel _inside_ one of these special marks? No thanks.

They aren't for me either!!

When pairing with people who use them, I find it harder to read, which is ok as long as variable names differ enough but it makes it really hard to distinguish == vs ===, and => vs -> etc...

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

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Post by rubjo »

zare_st wrote: post #61
rubjo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typeface designer here. Thanks for trying the font and having lots of thoughts about it. I guess the point is that it wasn’t first and foremost designed to follow as many font design principles as possible. If that’s what’s important to you, pick a font that follows as many of these principles as possible. :D In the end, I guess I don’t really care whether I use 157ms to parse a sentence instead of 158 - although to…

Well you made it explicitly for programming purposes. I am not a poll house or a public opinion evaluator. But handwritten cursive and programming I wouldn't put in a same sentence. The ligatures and the height you choose really don't go well with a lot of popular programming languages. I'm not sure what aspect of programming do you believe is "inhumane" so you have desire to introduce "humanity" through design choic…

Heh well actually I made the font for my own use.

Some others have liked it, others have critized features of it, like the italics and the ligatures. (Features one can easily disable in most sane editors, I might add).

I’ve been using it daily ever since I made it, and I like to believe it makes me effective and happy.

No one should obviously pick a font which is hard to read for them of slows them down. This font doesn’t do that for me personally. If it does that for you, yes, you should probably pick a font where legibility has been the sole focus. (Dyslexia fonts for programming, maybe?)

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#70

Post by nrml_amnt »

Beautiful website (mobile). Beautiful font. Although I must agree that it’s not as legible as Fira or Ubuntu in an editor, I would certainly consider this font for aesthetic purposes for presentation, etc. It looks fantastic on your site.
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