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Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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We can talk about how more than 98% of the entire population of Australia happily took two to three COVID vaccinations over the course of the past two years or so and there's been no significant increase in morbidity and mortality statistics compared to before. We can talk about how Australia has some internationally acclaimed epidemiologists who have been trawling the statistics here for the past 40 years, publishin…

Have you looked at the numbers yourself?

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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I mean.. we locked children in their homes for 12-24 months. Quite literally, my kids could not: attend school, take swim lessons, do gymnastics, play soccer for 24 months without severe restrictions. Further, other parents were concerned to the point the sniffles or a covid exposure would limit our ability to get together for 3-14 days. Finally, you had parents also stuck home trying to raise kids in this environmen…

> locked children in their homes for 12-24 months

So you LITERALLY sit at home ALL THE TIME for a year? Even China didn't had 12 Month lockdowns!

> mask mandate lifted from schools after 24 months so locked at home or just mask mandates?

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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mRNA vaccines don't create circulating spike protein. The specific mechanism of action of mRNA vaccines is to create a spike protein inside a cell (muscle cell - it's an intramuscular injection) which then gets presented by the MHC-proteins on the surface of the cell. This is a similar mechanism which viral-vector vaccines use as well. This is quite unlike regular protein-bolus vaccines which do in fact just inject a…

I just saw in an article, that while uncommon, mRNA vaccines can actually lead to circulating spike protein. From the article [1]: Most notably, the plasma of patients with postvaccine myocarditis had “markedly elevated levels” of free spike antigen (33.9 ± 22.4 pg/mL), with the protein circulating in the body unbound by antibodies. “Although postvaccine myocarditis clinically occurs more commonly in males, [this] wa…

From the original study though, patients without myocarditis were found to have no such levels.

> A notable finding was that markedly elevated levels of full-length spike protein (33.9±22.4 pg/mL), unbound by antibodies, were detected in the plasma of individuals with postvaccine myocarditis, whereas no free spike was detected in asymptomatic vaccinated control subjects (unpaired t test; PSo what we have is a potential explanatory mechanism (namely, probably some biochemistry which means for whatever reason these people seem to release the protein rather then keep it cell bound - although correlation is not causation, the whole effect could work the other round).

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36597886/

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Well, Injecting stuff into one's bloodstream and vaccination are two different things. Normally, vaccine is injected in a muscle, a tissue, not in a blood vessel.

And yes, flu virus (and other viruses) can (surprise!) replicate itself! And not the vaccine!

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Diabetes is complex and a simplistic jump to "Covid directly causes Diabetes" is very likely incorrect. From the article itself: Diabetes risk factors may have been exacerbated during the COVID-19 pandemic including limited physical activity, increased sedentary behaviors, sleep disturbances, and increased intake of processed foods. and note that diabetes has increased in very specific groups, not generally at the sa…

COVID directly gave me pre-diabetic symptoms that gradually improved over about 12-18 months. It was really a binary healthy, not healthy switch after the most intense day of sickness.

I’m curious. How do you know it was COVID? I too was diagnosed pre-diabetic post-COVID. No longer the case now. However, I’m not sure how I could ever make the direct attribution to COVID?

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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“Cooking” at home does not necessarily mean healthier than restaurants. Home cooking for most people uses tons of sauces/cheeses/creams/butter/chocolate/breads/etc loaded with sugar and sat fats.

> Home cooking for most people uses tons of sauces/cheeses/creams/butter/chocolate/breads/etc loaded with sugar and sat fats. A restaurant chef once told me, 'not as much as we do'. I was in a city that required chain restaurants to put sodium quantities (and maybe other data) on the menues. The numbers were eye-watering.

Former restaurant chef. Indeed, that’s my experience. Especially butter. I’ve never seen so much butter go into a dish. Another that flies under the radar: ingredient quality. Example that comes to mind: the cooking oil for sauce/fry/etc is garbage.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Huh, I used the extra time I had during Covid to educate myself on health, nutrition, exercise. I lost 15 kg, reached my target BMI and have been replacing fat with muscle since. I am the healthiest I've ever been in my adult life thanks to Covid.

Amazing. Great job.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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I mean.. we locked children in their homes for 12-24 months. Quite literally, my kids could not: attend school, take swim lessons, do gymnastics, play soccer for 24 months without severe restrictions. Further, other parents were concerned to the point the sniffles or a covid exposure would limit our ability to get together for 3-14 days. Finally, you had parents also stuck home trying to raise kids in this environmen…

My kids were not locked in our home. They were outside literally every day. And I live in a city apartment and we had lockdowns. They socialization did suffer and they missed some sports practice, but they did had enough of healthy physical movement.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Home cooking for most people uses tons of sauces/cheeses/creams/butter/chocolate/breads/etc loaded with sugar and sat fats. A restaurant chef once told me, 'not as much as we do'. I was in a city that required chain restaurants to put sodium quantities (and maybe other data) on the menues. The numbers were eye-watering.

Former restaurant chef. Indeed, that’s my experience. Especially butter. I’ve never seen so much butter go into a dish. Another that flies under the radar: ingredient quality. Example that comes to mind: the cooking oil for sauce/fry/etc is garbage.

Fat is flavor, after all.

Re: Type 2 diabetes rates in US youth rose 62% after Covid pandemic began

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It saddens me to hear so many young people are having such serious health disadvantages. I wish I could do something for them other than post. I think the actual culprit is stress.

I was a stress eater up until late July when I started with strict OMAD/keto. I lost 8kg and reduced waist circumference by 11cm.

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