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Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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I use it, but just don't like the devtools. Or moreso miss some things from Chrome/Edge.

Give Firefox Developer Edition a try, if haven't already, and are looking for more robust development tools.

What are the differences compared to regular Firefox?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#112

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Same. Been using it since it was called Camino then Firebird, a confusing namespace collision :P

Maybe they can use Screaming Chicken for a future name

That's reserved for use after build 197.3.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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post #82

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In some ways profiles works better, and in others container tabs does. I have two password managers, one for work and one for home. Multiple profiles lets me work with both. Container tabs lets me log into a site multiple times, or when they have a session cookie that prevents me from navigating to two different flows. Both great, both fill completely different niches.

Firefox has profiles too, btw.

Profiles in Firefox isn't great.

The profiles plugin, is great.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/profile-switc...

I would want to see this integrated.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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> Chrome still feels snappier I actually tested this and Firefox is significantly faster in rendering CSS and tables. (Not sure about complex Javascript.) Chrome's snappiness is mostly UI smoke and mirrors, actual sites load faster for me in Firefox.

Maybe FF should take some tips on those UI "smoke and mirrors". What feels faster is what users are going to go off of. For example, a page that fully loads in 1 second vs a page that incrementally loads in 1.5 seconds - the latter may feel faster because the time to start loading is faster.

That makes the user experience worse though. Anyone who's had a webpage layout change while they were trying to interact with it knows how frustrating it is.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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I use it, but just don't like the devtools. Or moreso miss some things from Chrome/Edge.

Give Firefox Developer Edition a try, if haven't already, and are looking for more robust development tools.

Looking at https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/developer/ I'm a bit confused... Which features are just new features which will soon be in the main Firefox DevTools, and which are specific to installing the Developer Edition?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#116

Firefox is a great browser and Mozilla is a (generally) great organization. It's my daily driver on all my devices (except my TV ha), it's fast and has great plugins that also work in mobile. Philosophically I'm very much a "root for the underdog" type of person so it makes me happy that way, too. Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site…

I took an old laptop and transformed it into an Arch Linux based smart-tv (thanks to a stabilized "air mouse" and AwesomeWM to configure windows positions and shortcuts through LUA). Now I basically do everything through Firefox in kiosk mode: it's fast, you can avoid ads, telemetry et similia through configuration tweaks and extensions. The only problem I have is with Sky/NowTV services, that are not accessible by web browser and don't have Linux apps and are not (yet?) working through wine. All the rest I use (Prime Video, Netflix, Mubi, Discovery+ etc) work great with it, way faster and cleaner than usual smart TV apps. This with a 15W-TDP 4th-gen i3 based old entry level laptop. That's just to say that Firefox can actually be pretty good for TV!

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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>Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing. Yes, and the lack of a viable vertical tabs solution for Chrome (though some Chrome based browsers have native implementations). I am baffled how anyone could still be using horizontal tabs as it is clearly inferior. I am also annoyed as hell that it is not native in Firefox.

What extension do you use for vertical tabs on FF? I tried tree style tabs and sideberry but liked neither.

I use “tree tabs” and like it best due to its features like folders and unload-tab. However it is a pain in the ass to configure the theme to look right in dark mode. Plan on investing an hour. But once done is done.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Is this one of those synthetic benchmarks that don't mean much?

Speedometer executes a bunch of TodoMVC projects, so it's a mix of JS and DOM work. FF has done a lot of cool work on their DOM and have started to focus some on making JS faster, so they are pretty fast here.

https://browserbench.org/Speedometer2.0/

If you are interested in just JS, JetStream 2 is a good metric IMO, but is perhaps less "real world" as it doesn't really do DOM stuff. FF is slower here, but has made a lot of progress recently. (going from somewhere around 35% slower to around 10% slower).

https://browserbench.org/JetStream2.0/in-depth.html

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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post #72

Firefox is a great browser and Mozilla is a (generally) great organization. It's my daily driver on all my devices (except my TV ha), it's fast and has great plugins that also work in mobile. Philosophically I'm very much a "root for the underdog" type of person so it makes me happy that way, too. Only very rarely (every few months) am I forced to use Chrome for a site - and in my view, that's a huge ding on the site…

What do you find lacking in Firefox dev tools? For me I actually prefer them to Chrome.

I don't find them lacking - I just don't use them regularly so it feels awkward when I do use them.
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