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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by davidgay »

cft wrote: post #58
afavour wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other issues aside, is that actually legal? I've always been under the impression that you need to pay local taxes wherever you're working but would be delighted to be proven wrong.

You don't pay Spanish taxes if you don't derive any income from Spain and if you are less than 183 days per year in the country. If you are more than 183 days per year in the country, there's a Spanish tax treaty with the US, and you pay US taxes on your US income anyway. And if all you have is $10mm on your checking account but no income, you don't pay any taxes anywhere.

> And if all you have is $10mm on your checking account but no income, you don't pay any taxes anywhere.

Wealth taxes are a thing too, e.g., in Switzerland.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by [deleted] »

Fernicia wrote: post #50
YPPH wrote: post #5

I cannot think of a legitimate basis to discriminate by country.

Whether you agree with it or not, the EU has proved itself to take consistently anti-big US tech stances, so I can see why they might be deterred from releasing to that market without obvious financial benefits.

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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by tacker2000 »

Hilarious. Big announcement and yet nobody in this thread has been able to register, nobody is giving any first hand account of using it.

Whats the point of this big announcement then? Google is such a caricature of corporatism and blunders, it’s just sad.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by ajross »

cft wrote: post #43
ajross wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question isn't one of citizenship or abstract identity. The question is "Which laws will the content you are served be subject to?". If you don't want to be subject to Spanish law, get out of Spain.

So why do they wait 6 months and not change immediately when you get off the plane and use your android phone? And then back? When i get back to the US, i will have Spanish Google accounts for at least 6 (or 12?) months, while using them from my own house.

To prevent trivial exploits using VPNs, probably.

Look, the problem here is that internet providers are trying to follow the law ("avoid fines" if you prefer the cynical framing). The law is different in EU countries than it is in the USA, in some very important ways. And they need to be seen making a good faith effort to enforce those laws. A six month grace period for an account "primarily used" in one regime seems not terribly unreasonable to me.

But that's not what your original comment was asking for anyway. You wanted to be sitting in Barcelona or wherever and e.g. not be subject to the GDPR and EU-specific data retention requirements (which is presumably the issue here: Bard likely isn't yet compliant being probably all hosted in the USA).

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Post by world2vec »

In my company's workspace when I try to join the waitlist it says "Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18."
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