Ask HN: Why are some YC startups not posting salary ranges when law requires it?

Post by Retric » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 4:47 PM UTC

Octoth0rpe wrote: post #103

indymike wrote: post #78

I've been in the job board / HR Tech space for a while, and every time I see a state pass a law requiring advertising the salary range, I'm reminded of a few facts: * Showing your salary range as long as it is at market wage or higher delivers 14% more applicants. It is a good idea to show salary on job ads. * If you don't give the job board a salary range, they will use tools like salary.com or their own tools to sh…

> the truth is that unemployment did not go up in November. Do you have a source on this that breaks out unemployment by sector? 100k tech sector layoffs could be easily overshadowed by holiday season retail hiring.

Post by gregjor » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 4:47 PM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #94

gregjor wrote: post #64

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Ethical behavior, to me, includes considering more than one reason someone or some company does something I don't like. Possibly these companies posting on HN deliberately intended to break the law. Equally possibly (more likely, in my opinion) those companies don't know about the law, or haven't had time to comply since the law went into effect just a few weeks ago. Any number of explanations present themselves, and…

I don't believe I said anything about intent. Indeed, my comment is rooted in the assumption that YC wants to do the right thing here. Did you mean to reply to somebody else? Even assuming the best of intent -- in fact, especially when we assume that -- YC's role as a guide to often-novice entrepreneurs means they should be helping out here. Both by educating them on changing hiring laws and by sending back inadequat…

Post by prh8 » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 4:47 PM UTC

asdajksah2123 wrote: post #86

Osiris wrote: post #61

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This has been law in Colorado for 2 years and applies to anyone offering jobs to any Colorado resident including remote jobs. The law passed in 2019 and went into effect Jan 1, 2021.

Has Colorado actually enforced the law? The major difference with the NY law is that NY is actually expected to enforce it. That being said, the law is deliberately expected to be leniently enforced, starting with warnings, and only after the warning has been issued will fines be enforced. Also, another big difference is that other major states (CA & WA I believe) are expected to enact similar laws in 2023, so most U…

Post by diehunde » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 4:49 PM UTC

SpeedilyDamage wrote: post #98

Curious: can you post a job that isn't for folks in states that have this requirement? Would you have to explicitly say that or only upon inquiry?

Post by noir_lord » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 4:50 PM UTC

bluedevil2k wrote: post #85

CoastalCoder wrote: post #45

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> Why not add it by default? IIUC, it's generally held that in a price negotiation, the first party that posts a number is at a disadvantage. Starting salary is one kind of price negotiation. So I can understand why employers would be reluctant to do that.

Yeah, this isn’t correct. All things being equal, the first to post a number is at a big advantage. As another commenter pointed out, this is called anchoring. Think about a house being sold in a normal market, the price is always well above its market value to anchor the numbers high. The reason companies don’t want to post a salary number is all things aren’t equal: they have far more information on pay than you do…