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This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

There have to be grades between banning and free for all.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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post #7

This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

> Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Take your originally intended actions and obscure responsibility for them until risks of accountability are sufficiently mitigated?

I mean maybe, I sort of literally just mean not drive his investment into the ground by opening the floodgates, that could take a lot of forms.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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"In Europe, the bird will fly by our rules."

Let’s see how popular that policy is once they make the site completely unavailable in Europe.

God, stop, don't give me that much hope. Elon blowing 44 billions on a site worth maybe 5, before making it unavailable to half its userbase ? As well as reducing the amount of russian propaganda (that Elon does like to regurgitate all on his own anyways) that can be spewed on social networks ? This could be the biggest waste of money since the Tumblr acquisition, I'd love to help set records.

Can we nuke Facebook on the way too ?

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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I'd be interested to learn how you think kmeans helps either diversity or hate speech detection. I don't think it helps with any of either, as people's behavior, the context, the language used and sensibilities change across cultures and over time. What you call hate speech now may not be in the future and may not have been in the past. The best you could hope for is creating a fuzzy representation of the most visibl…

The clustering responds to which tweets are up- and down-voted by the agent. And, the agent is moved closer to the clusters they like tweets from, and further from the clusters they dislike tweets from. The more diverse your likes (likes tweets in many other clusters), the broader and less restrictive your cluster weighting is -- the more variety you see. The more restrictive your selection, the less variety. You dec…

How does this work with things like "ratio-ing" or "dunking" or libsoftiktok that intentionally take clusters of media from one group and shoving it into their group explicitly to hate them?

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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>maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience It's either going to be a double standard or not. I moderated a busy gaming site for years. Users have nothing to do but re-post what got someone else banned and then complain things aren't consistent. I would find the idea that a politician gets to say things, but I don't completely absurd.

I mean, if you think that “everyone is happy with Elon’s content moderation strategies” was one of the possible outcomes, well then I disagree, I think Elon is going to take heat for content moderation across the political spectrum.

I was thinking of it just from a moderation perspective. Elon, who knows.

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At least in the US, there's a lot of noxious speech that's legal. The US has very permissive free speech laws overall.

And conversely the US is one of the most restrictive nations on earth when it comes to speech that supposedly infringes Copyrights or can be interpreted as defamation/slander. The premise that US has anything resembling freedom of speech is completely untrue.

> the most restrictive nations on earth when it comes to speech that supposedly infringes Copyrights

That's absolutely true.

> or can be interpreted as defamation/slander

That's absolutely false. The United States tends to be much harder to press a defamation/slander case than many other territories. Perhaps you're thinking of the United Kingdom? They have much looser libel laws than the United States.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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> The only "diverse" opinion that has not been represented in Twitter moderation is the opinion of straight white males upset they can't spread vaccine misinformation, election misinformation, and deadnaming trans people without being reported and muted.

There is evidence that Twitter has been actively colluding with large pharmaceutical giants to target and purposefully ban those for being skeptical of them and the vaccine. [0] So one is not allowed to be skeptical and criticize that?

Perhaps everything on what is being read out on the news is the absolute truth then. Surely they can never be wrong. /s If we question the media and companies like PayPal or Twitter dislike that, then say goodbye to your account without giving a reason of what was violated [1] and in the case of the former you must pay a $2,500 fine for what they call 'misinformation'.

Exciting times ahead! /s

[0] https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/pfizer-board-member-scot...

[1] https://twitter.com/llsceptics/status/1567658400573448192

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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In the real world, sure. The Internet would have us believe that civil war is imminent. We need to stop letting the 1% of people who bother to post online drive our national dialog. We have put the crazies in charge of the asylum.

> The Internet would have us believe that civil war is imminent. The person who could arguably be considered the third most powerful politician in the US just had their own broken into and their spouse assaulted in a suspected act of domestic terrorism. I wouldn't say "imminent" but if you don't think the possibility is at least somewhere on the table I would consider that being naive.

In 2020 in Ottawa, a man rammed through the gates of the Prime Minister's residence with a vehicle. He was in body armour and carrying multiple firearms. He claims he just wanted to meet with the PM, who thankfully wasn't home at the time. Is Canada on the verge of civil war?

Multiple US presidents have been assassinated! Political violence is shocking but not actually so rare that we should latch on to any specific incident with particular meaning. It's particularly meaningless when it is the act of a single person who is somewhat deranged. If an organized group takes out a politician or other official, and this act had some support with the public, then we should start worrying.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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If you are exposed to things on Twitter that are tweeted by people not personally known to you, IMHO you are using Twitter incorrectly. I have no idea why anyone gives a damn what the content moderation policies might be. Speaking for my own account I have never once seen anything said by Trump, Kanye, the pillow guy, any neo nazis, any anti-vaxxers, or anything like that. In what way are people using Twitter that makes them care?
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