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Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by more_corn »

imiric wrote: post #61
pline wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i fear coming off as a hostile know it all, but i think this company is simply parting a fool from their money (see Juicero). i don't think that a click and grow equivalent is needed in the cubensis cultivation space. with the advent of uncle bens tek around 2019 and pf tek years before that the flood gates for at home cultivation psilocybe cubensis have already been opened.

Yet there's still no begginer-friendly way of doing any of that without diving head-first into the DIY home growing literature. Your comments are coming off as gatekeeping for no other reason than speculation and the fact you're already familiar with the space. This product seems to simplify the entire process of home growing, which is a bit more involved than squeezing juice out of fruit. As long as it's priced and…

The comparison with Jucero was unfair. This device does automate temperature control, misting and light. Which I understand is necessary for mushroom fruiting. I’m not sure what they do for the colonization phase which I understand is a necessary prep step. Although I bought a colonized Lions Mane log for $20 at the farmers market so it can’t be too complex. That being said the instructions I received for fruiting are pretty simple too so I’m not sure I’d buy this device unless I wanted a kitchen counter conversation piece. Or a science fair type toy.

Also Jucero was even worse than you think. It squeezed juice out of little plastic packets.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by more_corn »

s_dev wrote: post #70
kodah wrote: post #48

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Considering they're trying to sell pods that go with this device rather than selling some general purpose device, I don't think you're correct.

And the guy in Baja hoodie winking every time he says Mushroom? The other guy going on about "Uncle Ben tek" for growing mushrooms? You gotta read between the lines -- obviously this product will not be explicitly marketed for drug use. https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=32056302&goto=item%3Fi...

Good catch.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

chasebank wrote: post #95
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #84

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> Every dispensary has CC processing and a bank account. I've never been to a dispensary in the US that takes credit cards, and MC and Visa specifically don't allow cannabis businesses. https://www.cato.org/blog/cannabis-banking-clash-between-fed...

I've only been to our dispensaries here in Santa Barbara and they all take cards. https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cannabis/21/12/24405152/its... EDIT: Just read the company is issuing and processing their own 'credit cards'. I'm positive I've only used cards when buying from our dispensaries. Come to think of it, it's just debit cards but it's a card and it will buy weed if you want it to.

Point being, the large credit card networks, and more importantly, any FDIC insured bank, will not deal with cannabis funds.

There are a number of workarounds (Colorado credit unions being a notable one), and fintechs like the ones described in the article you linked trying to provide card solutions, but they're still all locked out of the "normal" US banking system.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by 7952 »

elif wrote: post #100
throwawaymaths wrote: post #86

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It does look nice enough to use it as a conversation piece when you throw parties, so there's that, over juicero. I think that must appeal to a certain type of person.

Yea if I was cooking for someone I would feel better about harvesting food from this device than "hold on a second while I get this bucket out of my cupboard."

I agree. Mushroom growing needs to be hygienic but depends on conditions that are not normally considered hygienic. Having some help in terms of the inputs and conditions would provide reassurance. There are lots of products like that in the kitchen that take something relatively easy and make it more consistent.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by LouisSayers »

eatbitseveryday wrote: post #108
LouisSayers wrote: post #102

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Have a watch of border control TV shows based in the US. They will literally cancel your visa and send you back home for admitting smoking weed in the US. If you're not from the US, beware weed is very much ILLEGAL, and you should treat it as such.

> They will literally cancel your visa and send you back home for admitting smoking weed in the US. No they don't. They explicitly state, "we do not care what you do on your travels, only that you do not bring any forbidden substances with you across the border." If you BRING something measurable (beyond a trace sample they wipe from you or your stuff) then they can take action like what you suggest. Admitting to the…

Yes they do, if they have reason to believe you will break US law (I.e. smoking weed) they will not hesitate to cancel your visa and put you straight back on the plane.

They've shown that multiple times in their border control TV show.

The episodes I saw:

There was an Australian girl (admitted to smoking weed on a previous trip) - put straight back on the plane, visa cancelled, and a German guy- on his way out got found with a speck of weed, admitted to smoking weed - got his visa cancelled and told he'd be refused entry if he tried to return.

They basically say "we are federal officers and we enforce federal law". In terms of visas if you provide reason to believe you will break the law, then they have the right to refuse you entry.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by namlem »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #84
chasebank wrote: post #68

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No they don’t. They just want plausible deniability. They’re a bank, they want to make money. Every dispensary has CC processing and a bank account. If they cared about federal law, they would stop obvious money laundering.

> Every dispensary has CC processing and a bank account. I've never been to a dispensary in the US that takes credit cards, and MC and Visa specifically don't allow cannabis businesses. https://www.cato.org/blog/cannabis-banking-clash-between-fed...

They don't allow cannabis businesses that sell naturally occurring delta-9 THC products. Other cannabis businesses are fine.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by namlem »

upupandup wrote: post #46
labrador wrote: post #21

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> For the section on growing your own "special" mushrooms The county where I'm from in California has decriminalized growing psilocybin mushrooms for personal use so I can just come right out and say that I plan on growing hallucinogenic mushrooms

There are psilocybin mushroom sold in marijuana dispensaries online and offline. To be honest I don't like the come up. I no longer like being "scolded" by it.

If you don't like the come up being too slow, then I suggest mushroom tea with citrus. Makes it hit all at once. One moment you're normal and the next moment you're tripping.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by solomonb »

imiric wrote: post #61
pline wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i fear coming off as a hostile know it all, but i think this company is simply parting a fool from their money (see Juicero). i don't think that a click and grow equivalent is needed in the cubensis cultivation space. with the advent of uncle bens tek around 2019 and pf tek years before that the flood gates for at home cultivation psilocybe cubensis have already been opened.

Yet there's still no begginer-friendly way of doing any of that without diving head-first into the DIY home growing literature. Your comments are coming off as gatekeeping for no other reason than speculation and the fact you're already familiar with the space. This product seems to simplify the entire process of home growing, which is a bit more involved than squeezing juice out of fruit. As long as it's priced and…

This device only addresses the final step of the process which is in fact the easiest step (when dealing with home scale cultivation).

There are already many companies which will sell you pre-inoculated bricks which are delivered to you in a cardboard box which you use as the fruiting chamber. The only difference here is that this company made the fruiting chamber out of plastic instead of cardboard.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by solomonb »

more_corn wrote: post #111
imiric wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet there's still no begginer-friendly way of doing any of that without diving head-first into the DIY home growing literature. Your comments are coming off as gatekeeping for no other reason than speculation and the fact you're already familiar with the space. This product seems to simplify the entire process of home growing, which is a bit more involved than squeezing juice out of fruit. As long as it's priced and…

The comparison with Jucero was unfair. This device does automate temperature control, misting and light. Which I understand is necessary for mushroom fruiting. I’m not sure what they do for the colonization phase which I understand is a necessary prep step. Although I bought a colonized Lions Mane log for $20 at the farmers market so it can’t be too complex. That being said the instructions I received for fruiting ar…

You are over estimating the complexity of fruiting commercial strains of edible mushrooms at this scale. You really only need to worry about automation when working at scale. For a single brick you just need to put the bag in a mostly clean area, slash it open on the sides, and mist it with a spray bottle.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by spaetzleesser »

DrinkWater wrote: post #16

I never tried to grow my own mushrooms, but the hardest part seems to be the actual growing of the mycelium with all the involved cleanliness, usage of needles, autoclaves and so on, right? The actual "container", which keeps the right amount of light and humidity and air circulation, can be build and maintained fairly easily. At least that's why i got from reading a little bit about this.

If you have a pressure cooker it's not very difficult.You buy the spores in syringes and inject them into the sterilized jars. Sterilize the needle before each injection and generally keep the space clean. I have done several batches and haven't had problems with contamination so far. You just go through a few weeks of self doubt until the mycelium gets visible.
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