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Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by s1artibartfast »

chasebank wrote: post #65
eterpstra wrote: post #5

For the section on growing your own "special" mushrooms, they have a young guy in a baja hoodie watching the "magic" happen and winking at the camera. Pretty sure they're targeting a very specific audience here. Solid marketing.

Indeed it is. As someone who’s been encapsulating magic mushrooms for 10+ years, what I’d really love to see is an easy way to extract psilocybin for a more accurate measurement of the compound. Encapsulated mushrooms work ok but sometimes it can be orders of magnitude different in potency. Like you think you’re drinking a beer and accidentally drank 3 margaritas. I’ve read that people are working on deriving psilocy…

The best I can think of for consistency short of measurement is homogenization to make an average. This goes for many products. Blend the individual items, batches, ect. The larger the quantity, the more consistent the output.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by LouisSayers »

chasebank wrote: post #56
devwastaken wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still illigal at a federal level.

So is weed. Nobody cares.

Have a watch of border control TV shows based in the US.

They will literally cancel your visa and send you back home for admitting smoking weed in the US.

If you're not from the US, beware weed is very much ILLEGAL, and you should treat it as such.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by giraffe_lady »

chasebank wrote: post #56
devwastaken wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still illigal at a federal level.

So is weed. Nobody cares.

Give it a few years. It's not a priority compared to cracking down on abortion and genociding queer people but they'll get around to it eventually.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by s1artibartfast »

anewpersonality wrote: post #29
PaulHoule wrote: post #2

Usually when you grow mushrooms you do it in two steps. First you grow out the mycelium on a growth medium such as grains, then you spread out the mycelium and cover it with some casing material, say peat moss, and fruit it under different environmental conditions. A typical mushroom lab has two areas built out (say with plastic sheets) to maintain the conditions for these two phases. Looks like their machine creates…

No no no.. for Lion's Mane, you want only the mycelium. How do you grow it in liquid such that 100% of the mycelium is available? Growing on grain ruins the cost-efficiency of the product.

I am only familiar with eating of the fruiting body.

Are you saying that the fruiting body is useless, or am I misunderstanding you?

The eating of the fruiting body has a very long history and some literature.

Do you have any more information.?

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by aliqot »

unicornporn wrote: post #62
pline wrote: post #25

as a home mushroom cultivator I can tell you that this device is pretty much the Juicero of the mushroom world. from what i'm reading this device accomplishes nothing that one can't do with a homemade monotub composed of a 32 quart storage tote, a spray bottle and some polyfill. if you are interested in growing edible gourmet mushrooms look up a local mushroom farm in your area, most of them sell blocks that you can…

This thing looks extremely rough when examining pictures and video at highest resolution available. Take a look at the left edge of the display cut out, as an example: https://i.imgur.com/ttZZhwa.png This hobbyist level of machining does not go very well with the slick design and marketing.

Wow I recognize this! That stuttered uneven spot is what happens when I try to flatten the edges with a dremel with the cylinder bit on and the speed up too high. It catches and digs in and makes the little dip.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by chromaton »

imiric wrote: post #61
pline wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i fear coming off as a hostile know it all, but i think this company is simply parting a fool from their money (see Juicero). i don't think that a click and grow equivalent is needed in the cubensis cultivation space. with the advent of uncle bens tek around 2019 and pf tek years before that the flood gates for at home cultivation psilocybe cubensis have already been opened.

Yet there's still no begginer-friendly way of doing any of that without diving head-first into the DIY home growing literature. Your comments are coming off as gatekeeping for no other reason than speculation and the fact you're already familiar with the space. This product seems to simplify the entire process of home growing, which is a bit more involved than squeezing juice out of fruit. As long as it's priced and…

I've done this technique: https://namyco.org/docs/grow_oyster_mushrooms_on_kitty_litte...

It's pretty easy. I learned it at a workshop for local mushroom hunting group.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by retrac »

chasebank wrote: post #65
eterpstra wrote: post #5

For the section on growing your own "special" mushrooms, they have a young guy in a baja hoodie watching the "magic" happen and winking at the camera. Pretty sure they're targeting a very specific audience here. Solid marketing.

Indeed it is. As someone who’s been encapsulating magic mushrooms for 10+ years, what I’d really love to see is an easy way to extract psilocybin for a more accurate measurement of the compound. Encapsulated mushrooms work ok but sometimes it can be orders of magnitude different in potency. Like you think you’re drinking a beer and accidentally drank 3 margaritas. I’ve read that people are working on deriving psilocy…

> I’ve read that people are working on deriving psilocybin from yeast but haven’t heard much as of late.

They were successful. A team at the Technical University of Denmark inserted the genes to synthesize psilocybin into Saccharomyces cerevisiae (brewer's yeast) [1] and they had excellent yields:

> a final production strain producing 627 ± 140 mg/L of psilocybin and 580 ± 276 mg/L of the dephosphorylated degradation product psilocin in triplicate controlled fed-batch fermentations

It's likely the means it will be produced commercially if it becomes a widely-approved drug. Not sure the average person will be able to get their hands on that strain easily anytime soon though. I imagine it'll be guarded as a trade secret as strictly as those modified E. coli that pump out human insulin.

[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S109671761...

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by eatbitseveryday »

LouisSayers wrote: post #102
chasebank wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is weed. Nobody cares.

Have a watch of border control TV shows based in the US. They will literally cancel your visa and send you back home for admitting smoking weed in the US. If you're not from the US, beware weed is very much ILLEGAL, and you should treat it as such.

> They will literally cancel your visa and send you back home for admitting smoking weed in the US.

No they don't. They explicitly state, "we do not care what you do on your travels, only that you do not bring any forbidden substances with you across the border."

If you BRING something measurable (beyond a trace sample they wipe from you or your stuff) then they can take action like what you suggest. Admitting to them you do take substances on your travels is irrelevant to them.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by hinkley »

As someone who watch too much This Old House as a child, and lives in the PNW, if you live in a particularly humid part of the world I would strongly suggest you keep your mushroom experiments outside.

There are some non-zero risks around having saprophytic mushrooms producing spores inside or immediately outside of your house. I need to replace the framing around my back door and add a roof over it due to water damage, which I can tell because there's baby turkey tail about 4 inches up from the sill.

Re: Smart mushroom growing device for beginners

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Post by s1artibartfast »

DrinkWater wrote: post #16

I never tried to grow my own mushrooms, but the hardest part seems to be the actual growing of the mycelium with all the involved cleanliness, usage of needles, autoclaves and so on, right? The actual "container", which keeps the right amount of light and humidity and air circulation, can be build and maintained fairly easily. At least that's why i got from reading a little bit about this.

>involved cleanliness, usage of needles, autoclaves and so on, right?

Most of the cleanliness is overblown. It makes sense if you are running a commercial operation, selling a starter, but less important if you can tolerate some failures.

I had a friend who grew 20x 5 gallon buckets at a time and this was is process:

1) Boil grain and and put it in mason jars in the kitchen

2) Cut a piece from the inside of a mushroom and add it to the grain in the kitchen

3) wait until it grows 4) Fill a 50 gallon trash can with wood chips

5) Pour boiling water into the trashcan outside

6) Transfer woodchips and grain to 5 gallon bucket in a dirty greenhouse

As you can imagine, this wasn't a very sterile process, but it worked fine for hundreds of pounds of Oysters.

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