Are there any good quality dumb tv available in market anymore?
Gigabyte makes a "monitor" with the same panel as the LG OLEDs.
Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks
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I have a QN90A, the ads are annoying but it's fine and it's a great TV overall. It's basically just a tiny banner ad at the bottom right of the home screen. Personally I take much bigger risks day to day by doing things like biking to work, so I'm okay with the risk of my TV sending data back to advertisers. BTW, I'm pretty sure the only Samsung TVs that are five figures are the 98" beasts. My 75" QN90A was $1600, an…
> Personally I take much bigger risks day to day by doing things like biking to work, so I'm okay with the risk of my TV sending data back to advertisers. It's up to you how you feel about the privacy issue, of course, but that's not how risk works. It's additive. The fact that you take other risks, bigger or smaller, doesn't rationally change the value of this risk.
Steel-manning, they could have meant that the larger risk makes this smaller on insignificant. Adding 1 to 1,000,000,000 also results in a larger number - not that I think the actual compared risks could be given these numbers on any scale, but to their mind the TV privacy risk may be too insignificant to bother with when there are easier and larger risks to work on.
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#113I'm totally done with Samsung. Their TVs are overpriced and bad, their phones add undeletable bloatware, remove useful stuff like headphone/mic jack, have low battery life and capacity and they force you to buy the flagship model, if you don't you'll receive a really small battery that even in the flagship model is not large enough. If you don't buy Galaxy series you won't even be able to mirror output via USB. And s…
Their appliance division has issues too. There are 2 ongoing lawsuits around their refrigerators. 2017 ice makers leak water (mine does this). https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/new-development-samsung-ic... 2022: fridge gets too warm: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/samsung-refrigerator-class-acti...
It's a shame because my 8-10 years old Samsung dumb TV, oven/microwave and laser printer are all working great to this day.
(That's more coincidence than brand loyalty, my Laden (French cheap brand) washing machine has also been working with no maintenance need for 13 years)
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Many of us share your distaste for the issues your mentioned. The challenge is finding better alternatives. Do you have any recommendations?
I suggest Bosch. Especially for dishwashers. My old apartment had one: 7 years with zero issues. My new house has one: zero issues, the design is a real pleasure to use, and it also happens to be the quietest dishwasher sold in the US, at least according to the Googling I did when I first ran it and could barely even tell it was on.
Seconding Bosch. I've only owned one of their dishwashers for a little over a year, and I'm really impressed with the low noise level. It also had a great leveling system that raises the back by turning a screw that was accessible from the front. It made DIY installation much easier. Bonus: no smart features to go sideways a few years down the line.
Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks
#115Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…
> They are not a FAANG [...] Assume that whatever you watch on a Samsung TV is being relayed to multiple state-level spy agencies.
You don't feel the same about FAANG? And by state-level spy agencies you mean government spy agencies, or something else?
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If Software Freedom Conservancy win their lawsuit against Vizio for GPL violations in their TVs, you will probably be able to install open source Linux distros with Kodi on any Vizio TV and soon afterwards lots of other smart TV vendors will be similar. Allowing the vendor operating system to remain on the device after you purchase it basically means spyware these days. https://sfconservancy.org/copyleft-compliance/v…
Having the kernel source won't really help with a locked bootloader.
Thats why the GPL requires the ability to install as well:
https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/mar/25/install-gplv2/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/jul/23/tivoization-and-t... https://events19.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017...
Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks
#117Every time this comes up I feel obligated to add the following: 1) Samsung televisions spy on your mercilessly . They collect everything they can, including screenshots at regular intervals and send them back to Samsung so that they can sell this to "partners". They are not a FAANG and don't have anywhere near their level of security expertise. I have second-hand but reliable information about their security approach…
You can block 99% of this by using the "Samsung" list with nextdns on your TV. Few other hosts in this thread [1]
[1] https://gist.github.com/peteryates/b44b70d19ccd52f62d66cdd4b...
Re: Samsung Busted for Cheating TV Test Benchmarks
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a QN90A, the ads are annoying but it's fine and it's a great TV overall. It's basically just a tiny banner ad at the bottom right of the home screen. Personally I take much bigger risks day to day by doing things like biking to work, so I'm okay with the risk of my TV sending data back to advertisers. BTW, I'm pretty sure the only Samsung TVs that are five figures are the 98" beasts. My 75" QN90A was $1600, an…
> the ads are annoying but it's fine This doesn't parse. It's like saying 'this apple is rotten but it's fine'. If the apple is rotten, then it is not fine. If the television has annoying ads, then it is not fine.
It does parse. It's not like what you say, it more like "this apple has a bruise and some blemishes but I'm still happy to consume it". Television has had annoying ads for much of the past century and millions of people still found enough value in it to watch it.
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Their appliance division has issues too. There are 2 ongoing lawsuits around their refrigerators. 2017 ice makers leak water (mine does this). https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/new-development-samsung-ic... 2022: fridge gets too warm: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/samsung-refrigerator-class-acti...
It's a shame because my 8-10 years old Samsung dumb TV, oven/microwave and laser printer are all working great to this day. (That's more coincidence than brand loyalty, my Laden (French cheap brand) washing machine has also been working with no maintenance need for 13 years)
Same, I have an older 2014 samsung 4k (3d), I bought the UHD evolution kit, and aside for some random black screens (maybe 5s every 4 hours), it's been a great TV. It's hard to upgrade, but a second gen QD-OLED might be what I get next.
The now surprising thing is there are no ads, and my AppleTV 4K(2nd gen) is more than good enough to watch everything I want to on it. Only QD-OLED and HDMI 2.1 and more expansive HDR are going to get me to upgrade at this point.
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I just want one without any smart features or preprocessing. Signal in via hdmi, rca, or radio waves. Attempt to reproduce exactly the image the signal describes out with no frames waiting in a buffer or other added latency.
I think a lot of us do. I just want a good image and hook up an Apple TV and a computer. I can’t stand using Android TV. I’ve never seen an example of it not being slow. And with ads now becoming a thing I don’t want it even more.
I'm on the same page with you. Actually, I was planning to do the same thing, but the one I got turns on in 2 seconds flat, and there's no feel of lag. It works reasonably snappy, which doesn't make you say "C'mon!". I think it's quite nice.
The video processor in that thing is very nice too. I'm using it with out of the box settings, and I don't feel the need to tweak anything, yet.
The model I have doesn't have blatant ads (and it's not a Samsung), so I'm a happy camper.