Maybe someone can provide a bolt-on board that communicates to these new cars overwifi. The board would have tactile knobs for radio, wiper, AC controls, and maybe a cigarette adapter too. The mounting of it would be 4 screws that are screwed directly into the screen. Just vacuum any glass bits that fall to the floor after.
Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
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Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know this makes me a clueless annoying boring techie nerd :), but I still cannot properly fathom how this is a minority opinion. NOBODY in my non-techie group of friends or family cares. Not.even.remotely. I watch them struggle with their touch screens, I even listen to them rant, but when asked about it afterwards, it's fine. Just fine. Sexy. Sleek. Desirable. Why do I have to go and ruin everything? Honestly, eve…
The problem you're describing (Auto AC) isn't that automatic ac doesn't work, but that it's working within a small, very confined space and those differences in temperature are felt immediately. From a personal perspective, I'd rather set it and forget it. It's why when I rarely use the car AC, one button is all it takes and it adjusts to something between 70 and 73, which is about the same it would be at home. When…
You’re describing a good auto A/C. The bad kind controls the average air temperature but has no concept of radiation, resulting in the driver being way too hot when it’s a cold sunny day and the sun is coming from the front left. The thermostat thinks the average temperature is fine, runs the A/C blower on low, and fails t cool the driver.
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#113Not a car, but my main gigging keyboard for as long as I've been gigging has been the Korg SV-1, and a big part of the reason is that there's no screens, only knobs. It's a pretty great interface, all in all. 90% of the time I use the presets I made for myself the first week I got it, but whenever I need something else I have no trouble doing it within seconds. It's fairly limited, in terms of features and sound bank…
I love our very knobby Korg SV-2.
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
A Hilux and Tacoma are two different vehicles: different engine options, different chassis, and almost zero interchangeable parts. Try taking a Tacoma to a parts counter outside the US, or Hilux to one in the US, and you’ll just get blank stares.
Thanks for that. I've always just assumed it was just a rebrand plus cosmetic (body+interior) changes.
Originally they sold the Hilux in the US but they realized that basically nobody who was buying one in the US needed that much truck right around the same time it became obvious they were gonna need to drop some serious coin on safety and emissions hence they just developed a new vehicle that was a better fit.
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#115Not a car, but my main gigging keyboard for as long as I've been gigging has been the Korg SV-1, and a big part of the reason is that there's no screens, only knobs. It's a pretty great interface, all in all. 90% of the time I use the presets I made for myself the first week I got it, but whenever I need something else I have no trouble doing it within seconds. It's fairly limited, in terms of features and sound bank…
Yep, it's super important for musical instruments.
I recently bought a Hammond XK-5 organ. It has exactly the same control layout as the B3 which came out in 1955. Physical drawbars, dedicated on/off controls for percussion settings, a real knob to select which chorus/vibrato setting to use. The keys on the bottom octave are inverted black/white to select presents. It even has the separate switch for the leslie which gets tacked onto the front of the organ because Laurens Hammond didn't want leslie speakers used with his organs and wouldn't allow a built-in control so they had to do this as a hack. Totally unnecessary now, but still better than a button because you can swipe your hand quickly across it to change between fast/slow mode in a split second. It's just fantastic.
While you're playing, and want to adjust settings on the fly (a common thing in organ) you don't want to be going into menus to adjust things.
They made a few small affordances to cater for extra functionality like the fact that you can (optionally) program presets to include arbitrary settings; there's a menu system to customise, but you rarely need to touch it. The switches on the B3 (e.g. for percussion) are now buttons instead, since the on/off status is part of the preset and they use indicator lights for status. But this is a minor tradeoff and doesn't make a material difference IMHO.
Before I had the XK-5 I was using the B3 simulator in Logic and trying to adjust all the settings with the on-screen controls, and trying to play with a regular MIDI keyboard. It just wasn't pleasant at all, esp. trying to adjust drawbars with a mouse.
The Viscount Legend is another B3 clone that takes the same approach and from what I've seen looks just as good. Other clones have physical buttons too but don't follow the original layout and seem a bit more awkward.
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#116A touch glass cockpit is perfect in a spaceship, good in an airplane or a boat, and an abomination in a car.
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#117Seriously. Without a dedicated on/off/volume knob for the soundsystem, the driving experience is diminished drastically, no matter how nice the car. And of course touch is way better than eyesight when you are supposed to be paying attention to the road. As someone else said, rough motor skills are safer and more appropriate in a car then controls needing fine motor skills.
I know this makes me a clueless annoying boring techie nerd :), but I still cannot properly fathom how this is a minority opinion. NOBODY in my non-techie group of friends or family cares. Not.even.remotely. I watch them struggle with their touch screens, I even listen to them rant, but when asked about it afterwards, it's fine. Just fine. Sexy. Sleek. Desirable. Why do I have to go and ruin everything? Honestly, eve…
> Whereas with Auto, you literally never know what you're going to get. It's not on conscious level - everybody thinks their Auto A/C it's awesome. Until you watch their actual sub-conscious behaviour on a drive.
Honest question: do you really see people touch the level of their ac during a drive?
Auto is actual temperature control. The system tries to stay at the set temperature. It’s a lot more comfortable that having cold air blasted in your face like we used to. I have never witnessed anyone changing it while driving, only flow control.
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#118https://knobfeel.tumblr.com/
Nice!
I still think about my 2000 VW Jetta. It had the most satisfying buttons and knobs. I still think about the substantial feed and knock of the button. Click seems like the wrong word to describe it. Compare the Audi A4 of the same vintage which has tinny clicky buttons that I hate.
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#119Not a car, but my main gigging keyboard for as long as I've been gigging has been the Korg SV-1, and a big part of the reason is that there's no screens, only knobs. It's a pretty great interface, all in all. 90% of the time I use the presets I made for myself the first week I got it, but whenever I need something else I have no trouble doing it within seconds. It's fairly limited, in terms of features and sound bank…
Yep, it's super important for musical instruments. I recently bought a Hammond XK-5 organ. It has exactly the same control layout as the B3 which came out in 1955. Physical drawbars, dedicated on/off controls for percussion settings, a real knob to select which chorus/vibrato setting to use. The keys on the bottom octave are inverted black/white to select presents. It even has the separate switch for the leslie which…
I just recently got a Crumar mojo desktop, which has all of the controls in one unit.
Absolutely agree though, Hammond is an instrument all to itself, and if you're gonna truly play it you need the drawbars.
Re: Bring Back Our Knobs: Analog vs. Digital (2009)
#120I have to say, I’m optimistic about the controls in the Ineos Grenadier. I’m not sure I can afford one, but man, the dash design is good.
Okay, now that is the kind of interior design I want in a car. I don't want an off-roader though, so I hope someone comes along and makes a sedan or a hatchback with similar interior design.