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iCloud’s Real Purpose is to Kill Windows

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Re: iCloud’s Real Purpose is to Kill Windows

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Almost nothing in technology is drawn out of thin air and developed from scratch. If you tried to give credit for every single stepping stone you used to develop anything, all you'd do is confuse the end users, and that's the whole point of what Apple is trying to accomplish: simplify for the user. Honestly, if I developed rsync, the fact that Apple was using it to power Time Machine would be quite an acknowledgement…

I don't imagine that the people with "invented rsync" on their resumés are exactly struggling for income either. Being able to tell people about your achievements is a lot better than having everyone pre-aware of them anyway IMO. (Also it should be pointed out that time machine doesn't actually use rsync at all, or anything like it. It uses a totally different and much simpler system, seemingly built on their own FSE…

And in particular, hardlinks to directories. That is why it is so fast (and also why it only works on HFS).

Re: iCloud’s Real Purpose is to Kill Windows

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I wonder if deals will be made in the future between Apple, MS, Google and large Internet providers to throttle the competition.

Or is Google planning long term by buying up dark fiber to make sure its Doc and Apps are accessible when its competitors are not?

Re: iCloud’s Real Purpose is to Kill Windows

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I don't get it. Most of what iCloud does is already being done on smartphones for free. Gmail and Exchange Server both already sync contacts, calendars, and email quite nicely across devices. I haven't had to manually transfer any of that to a new smartphone since long before there was an iPhone. The music thing is nice too, but it's either a paid solution or an incomplete one. Apple once released a stat that only 10…

Don't forget: Android already syncs all your contacts, calendars, apps, settings etc. App developers can use the sync API to sync files. In OS X-land, I've been using iSync to sync iCal and Address Book to Google Calendar and Google Contacts for about an year now.

In short: nothing to see here, please move along.

Re: iCloud’s Real Purpose is to Kill Windows

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I think there are too many PC's running windows available at a low price point to make this argument even worth considering. You can get laptops for less than the price of an iPod touch. Add to that, Windows Live's offerings such as Mesh, Hotmail (with Windows Live Mail client), SkyDrive and Office home and student edition are actually really good despite them not getting as much press coverage. People only talk abou…

Mesh is such a great product...It's too bad it hasn't gotten much attention. You just tell it what folders to watch and it'll quietly sync those folders across all your devices -- cloud included.

Spot on. It already is iCloud to a degree. It's the glue between everything I do at the minute (well that and bitbucket)

Re: iCloud’s Real Purpose is to Kill Windows

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I don't imagine that the people with "invented rsync" on their resumés are exactly struggling for income either. Being able to tell people about your achievements is a lot better than having everyone pre-aware of them anyway IMO. (Also it should be pointed out that time machine doesn't actually use rsync at all, or anything like it. It uses a totally different and much simpler system, seemingly built on their own FSE…

And in particular, hardlinks to directories. That is why it is so fast (and also why it only works on HFS).

Why are hard-links to directories that much faster? It seems like creating a bunch of actual directories with hard-linked files in them is a trivial difference. They still need to scan the files to figure out what has changed, and that's where the really time sink is, no?

Re: iCloud’s Real Purpose is to Kill Windows

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I think we need to realize that PCs (laptops or desktops) and mobile devices (tablets and mobile phones) are good at different things, and going forward will be used for different things. For example, I'm sure everyone (especially on this site) has noticed that software development is kind of a big thing. I don't see any indication that I'll be developing any software on a mobile device any time soon (especially not…

Very true! I like to have my documents on my own computer creating backups by myself. There might be people who like to have there documents in the clouds but others don't.

I'm an Ubuntu user and never used Ubuntu One.

Re: iCloud’s Real Purpose is to Kill Windows

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Oh, so now Apple pays salary for Foxconn employees? That's an interesting piece of news. How about HP, Cisco, Intel, Acer, Asus, Dell, Nokia, etc? How is suicide rate among Foxconn employees compared to average?

Yes they did provide a raise. Here's your interesting news. http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadi... You can find other references to that raise by using a search engine. You mean you have no control over a factory that you're the primary(or only) customer of? >How about HP, Cisco, Intel, Acer, Asus, Dell, Nokia, etc? I was replying to your GP post that stated that Apple and Jobs weren't after prof…

  > So you mean Apple is as mindlessly profit driven(if not
  > more) as all those other companies you just listed?
No. Foxconn makes products not only for Apple, but for those and other companies too. Hence my question, why should Apple be responsible for the pay. And Jobs' desire is not to improve experience for those making the products, but for those using them.

Re: iCloud’s Real Purpose is to Kill Windows

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What does iCloud have to do with Windows? It's not explained anywhere in the article. The purpose of iCloud is its utility, platform lock-in, and the "cloud" checkbox ticked off in every major Apple product. All of those things will probably kill Windows a little bit, but that's not necessarily the main purpose. If anything, it's positioned against Google.

Platform lock-in is a bit gray. They were talking that for Windows they would use Pictures (or is it MyPictures) folder instead of iPhoto. That probably means that if you are a Windows user but own an iPhone you'll still get iCloud service.

Re: iCloud’s Real Purpose is to Kill Windows

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I disagree. The usage of features in Word undoubtably follow the power law, so there is undoubtably somebody somewhere who does use any particular feature, but the vast majority of people don't use them. Pages doesn't have all of the functions and if you can't live without a particular function, it is obviously not a good replacement. However, for the vast majority of users, it has all the functionality that they wil…

Someone said some time ago: all people use only 5% of Word features at a time - the problem is that these are DIFFERENT 5% for everybody.

I don't think Word is a best example for that. I'd say the wast wast majority of Word users use very basic features. I've seen my share of documents where spacing and centering was done using spaces…

Re: iCloud’s Real Purpose is to Kill Windows

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I think we need to realize that PCs (laptops or desktops) and mobile devices (tablets and mobile phones) are good at different things, and going forward will be used for different things. For example, I'm sure everyone (especially on this site) has noticed that software development is kind of a big thing. I don't see any indication that I'll be developing any software on a mobile device any time soon (especially not…

  > I don't see any indication that I'll be developing any
  > software on a mobile device any time soon 
There is more to development than coding. See e.g. http://www.appcooker.com/
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