Larry Flynt has died • Hacker News Board

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by richrichardsson » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:04 AM UTC

asxd wrote: post #38

soheil wrote: post #2

The word Hustler being the first word of the sentence is unfortunate.

Not sure why this light hearted comment seemed to be so upsetting to some. I understood the title but can grasp how some may misconstrue it as “a founder who is a hustler”. I saw this as at least a slightly humorous observation.

> how some may misconstrue

Only people who lived under a rock for the last 50 years. I'm afraid to say that in the context of the whole headline you'd have to be an actual idiot to not comprehend that Hustler is a company or product if you did not know that already.

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by pjmlp » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:11 AM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #107

kenneth wrote: post #77

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Today the thought people can't bear is no longer porn, it's anything remotely not woke. It's any opinion that even slightly diverges from their own.

This is demonstrably not true - have you been on Twitter? You'll find every extreme represented there. Including accounts/messages not globally removed but marked "illegal in Germany".

We don't have any issue with pornography though, just with people that pretend the holocaust are a pile of lies that never happened.

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by Const-me » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:26 AM UTC

aikinai wrote: post #100

mariuolo wrote: post #96

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A nice experiment:)

Not really. Downvotes are specifically intended for comments that don't contribute to the discussion, so downvoting these wouldn't indicate disagreement or censorship.

Doesn't matter what they are intended for. What matters is reality.

Based on my observations, quite a few people on this web site use downvotes to indicate disagreement or dislike. Many of them appear to hate Trump.

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by supr_strudl » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:31 AM UTC

mtnGoat wrote: post #81

Rest In Peace Larry, you old curmudgeon! I had the pleasure of working for Larry and can say that in some ways he was a hero of mine. Not because he was a pornographer, but simply because he did what he pleased and fought like hell to protect that right. He risked everything he had to prove his points because he knew if he failed he would have nothing. I didn't always agree with what we were publishing and producing,…

>Not because he was a pornographer, but simply because he did what he pleased and fought like hell to protect that right.

That's what's wrong with the "free" world. If something's legal doesn't mean it's moral.

He did what he pleased for sure, but at what expense. Many would argue he contributed to objectifying women. There's always a flip side.

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by mrweasel » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:35 AM UTC

ALittleLight wrote: post #71

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #67

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The bigger problem is "define platform" Don't like twitter censorship, make your own twitter. Ergo, Parler. Oh, but, that's not "your" platform, that's built on AWS's platform. So AWS can deplatform you. What's next, if Parler sets up in a datacenter with their own physical servers are people going to attack their colocation/transit/peers or their DNS provider or their domain registrar or their SSL certificate issuer…

Oh, your phone app is banned? Just make your own phone, hardware and software.

Well... Yes, that's one very valid cause of action. It might not be the only way forward, it depends on a lot of things.

There's absolutely nothing standing in the way of PornHub introducing a phone, because they want to adult apps to be allowed.

Want to sell adult content on Instagram, but you're not allowed? Go build onlyfans.com.

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by Const-me » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:47 AM UTC

raverbashing wrote: post #110

f430 wrote: post #19

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/11/20/246297720... TIL interracial porn got Larry shot.

So you mean the southern "bastions of Free Speech" are not happy with some free speech they disagree with?

> the southern "bastions of Free Speech"

Historically, southern states were bastions of democratic party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Party_System

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by raverbashing » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 9:52 AM UTC

Const-me wrote: post #116

raverbashing wrote: post #110

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So you mean the southern "bastions of Free Speech" are not happy with some free speech they disagree with?

> the southern "bastions of Free Speech" Historically, southern states were bastions of democratic party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Party_System

Then why Trump supporters walk with the Confederate flag in hand?

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by lightgreen » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 10:05 AM UTC

supr_strudl wrote: post #114

mtnGoat wrote: post #81

Rest In Peace Larry, you old curmudgeon! I had the pleasure of working for Larry and can say that in some ways he was a hero of mine. Not because he was a pornographer, but simply because he did what he pleased and fought like hell to protect that right. He risked everything he had to prove his points because he knew if he failed he would have nothing. I didn't always agree with what we were publishing and producing,…

>Not because he was a pornographer, but simply because he did what he pleased and fought like hell to protect that right. That's what's wrong with the "free" world. If something's legal doesn't mean it's moral. He did what he pleased for sure, but at what expense. Many would argue he contributed to objectifying women. There's always a flip side.

Seems to be far fetched statement. Women (and men and everybody else) were objectified since the beginning of the history. But during 20th century this objectification took different forms because of general improvement of women rights and freedoms (basically, woman can be now “objectified” without high risks of being thrown to the streets by the family: women are much more independent now).

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by lightgreen » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 10:16 AM UTC

CerealFounder wrote: post #95

eplanit wrote: post #57

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I'm afraid people now see it as an antiquated and outmoded perspective on free speech. His attitude was embraced by progressive people of the late 20th century. That said, he too had to own his own platform in order to exercise his rights.

Your comment is confusing. Flynt fought the government, people who are complaining about cancel culture are complaining about people not liking their spicy takes.

> people who are complaining about cancel culture are complaining about people not liking their spicy takes

This is oversimplification.

There’s quite a difference between “not liking” and ruining career, denial of access to services etc.

Part of the problem is that only small group of people really “don’t like it” but capable of cancelling, and vast majority of people are happy to just ban that person in their feed and go on with their life (and large number of people are actually open to opposing views).

Re: Larry Flynt has died

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Post by amanaplanacanal » Thu, Feb 11, 2021, 10:18 AM UTC

Const-me wrote: post #116

raverbashing wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you mean the southern "bastions of Free Speech" are not happy with some free speech they disagree with?

> the southern "bastions of Free Speech" Historically, southern states were bastions of democratic party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Party_System

Yes. Most of the south flipped to the Republican party after the Democratic Party embraced the civil rights movement.