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Re: Uganda bans social media ahead of presidential election

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The crazy thing is that the Q-Anon people will inevitably see the spate of arrests and censorship as "The Storm" prophecy coming true but in reverse, an "Anti-Storm". I have a feeling this will only make many of them even more committed and possibly now that they can point to something real, could even grow the movement. Crazy stuff.

People seem not to realize that every action spawns a reaction by the other side, especially extreme ones. All this censoring will almost undoubtably cause some people on the other side to double down, unfortunately. :/

Retaliating against the behavior of an unrelated authoritarian regime is irrational.

Re: Uganda bans social media ahead of presidential election

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post #69

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People seem not to realize that every action spawns a reaction by the other side, especially extreme ones. All this censoring will almost undoubtably cause some people on the other side to double down, unfortunately. :/

Inaction also spawns a reaction by the other side, as most infamously Chamberlain learned. I don't really buy a policy proposal of "ignore it and it will go away" absent some more concrete reason to believe it. And, in fact, the policy we've been taking re QAnon over the last few years was precisely "ignore it and it will go away," and it didn't work out so well.

It goes to show the naivete of the "sunlight is the best disinfectant" crowd. Sure, sunlight is the best disinfectant... and oxygen is the best accelerant.

Re: Uganda bans social media ahead of presidential election

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civilized I have trouble relating that word to the fresh memory of watching drooling, bearded gun-monkeys clambering on tables in the Capitol chanting 'hang Mike Pence!'

Both spellings of that word are acceptable. Get off of your high horse, especially if you can't even ride it yourself. Your depictions of the very disturbed, impoverished and desperate people involved in the DC/Capitol building fiasco are heartless, cruel, and completely uncivilized. You clearly have no idea what is going on in their lives, just as so many of them were unaware of what the BLM marches were all about.

I'm with you, but I will say I'm currently dealing with a codebase that spells "organization" half the time, and "organisation" the other half of the time. Yes, variable names, and since it's JavaScript, it doesn't actually error out until the code is executed...

Not super related, but it's caused me a number of problems...

Re: Uganda bans social media ahead of presidential election

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bad with social media, worse without it. Our new dilemma.

>worse without it Why do you think so?

if in one hand social media can be used for bad - as we saw with Cambridge analytics and etc, in another hand without social media, the Government or the most powerful party, can as usual - in Africa and South America - with a megaphone, money, medicament and old school propaganda, manipulate the opinion and consequentially win the elections.

Let's say that without social media, you constrain who is able to manipulate the opinion to the dominant groups in the Country: The rich family that owns the favorite TV/Radio channels, the Army general supported by the riches, the man from the working classes that never worked, and so on...

Re: Uganda bans social media ahead of presidential election

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Personally I think these movements are the natural result of pivoting our epistemological institutions from truth-seeking to progressive political advocacy. The right in particular has less reason to recognize these institutions as “truth authorities” as even when the right has a good point (e.g., when the right asks, “how do we know that racism and not crime rates belies police shooting disparities?”) , they can rel…

> when the right asks, “how do we know that racism and not crime rates belies police shooting disparities?” This question isn't asked in good faith. Besides, it's actually irrelevant; those deaths are statistics. What was demanded was prosecutions of specific police for specific shootings of specific, named people such as Breonna Taylor. It's up to the white community to decide if police shootings of white people are…

> This question isn't asked in good faith.

Why not? It seems like a perfectly reasonable question. You have a lot of people who are protesting and some who are even rioting on the pretense that racism is driving police to kill blacks in greater proportion than other races--surely they must have a good reason to think that it's racism and not crime rates or some other factor that correlates with race? It doesn't seem unreasonable to want some assurance that there's a good reason our cities are being burned and looted.

> Besides, it's actually irrelevant; those deaths are statistics. What was demanded was prosecutions of specific police for specific shootings of specific, named people such as Breonna Taylor.

Nope, "racial disparities in police killings" was frequently and ubiquitously cited as a motivation for the protests and riots. There was some back pedaling from some people that this isn't actually about race, but Black lives matter is actually just a generic movement against police brutality; however, that's plainly a farce.

> It's up to the white community to decide if police shootings of white people are too frequent, not frequent enough, or whatever. That is irrelevant to the BLM question.

What "white community"? Why should other people who have nothing but pigmentation in common with me decide the likelihood of me being killed by police? Why should we want 'race' to be a factor (as opposed to a correlation) in police killings at all? What is "the BLM question" if not "why are blacks killed disproportionately than whites"?

Re: Uganda bans social media ahead of presidential election

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I’m pretty apathetic about these bannings (so hopefully this comment doesn’t read as support or opposition), but “not all conservatives were banned” does not refute “only conservatives were banned”.

The latter is an obvious lie. https://twitter.com/blm

Official account is https://twitter.com/blklivesmatter so I suspect this was a fake or parody.

Re: Uganda bans social media ahead of presidential election

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Personally I think these movements are the natural result of pivoting our epistemological institutions from truth-seeking to progressive political advocacy. The right in particular has less reason to recognize these institutions as “truth authorities” as even when the right has a good point (e.g., when the right asks, “how do we know that racism and not crime rates belies police shooting disparities?”) , they can rel…

>Personally I think these movements are the natural result of pivoting our epistemological institutions from truth-seeking to progressive political advocacy. What institutions are you claiming have shifted from "truth-seeking to progressive political advocacy"? It seems to me that the reason these institutions appear more progressive is that American conservatism is becoming less and less in touch with the truth. The…

> What institutions are you claiming have shifted from "truth-seeking to progressive political advocacy"? ...the politicization of basic COVID precautions like mask wearing

The most glaring example of this was public health authorities pushing for shut downs of pretty much all public spaces (including of red-coded protests), but then turning around and giving the greenlight to BLM protests as critical to public health.

Another example is the imbroglio about vaccine prioritization, though that's more about values (is it worth saving more lives if the saved lives are disproportionately white?) than it is about factual claims.

Re: Uganda bans social media ahead of presidential election

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People seem not to realize that every action spawns a reaction by the other side, especially extreme ones. All this censoring will almost undoubtably cause some people on the other side to double down, unfortunately. :/

What kind of a follow-up to insurrection constitutes doubling down? Launching a nuclear missile?

You can’t think of a terrorist attack with more than four deaths?
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