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Telegram, the client, is fully FLOSS. You can even find it on f-droid¹, contrary to e.g. Signal, which is only available for installation via closed app stores. Do you refer to the server-stack? How would that being Open Source help you when you cannot ever verify what a server actually runs? ¹ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.telegram.messenger/
> Do you refer to the server-stack? How would that being Open Source help you when you cannot ever verify what a server actually runs? Primarily yes, and while true - that's an extreme and a bit pointless, imo. I can say the same about Linux, which i'm on now, as i've never verified what i'm _actually_ running. Or Matrix servers i'm connected to, and what they're _actually_ running. Yet the idea remains that somethin…
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#112I found Durov's plans to monetize Telegram most interesting. https://t.me/durov/142 Team features (competing with Slack/Discord?), ad tools for telegram channels and premium stickers. Whilst keeping all the existing Telegram features.
I really wish Telegram would embrace open source, security audits, etc. It's one of, if not the, best UX chat message apps with so many features it's sort of mindblowing. I'd love to use them. But.. i avoid it, because something doesn't smell right. Allowing me to pay would be yet another right direction for Telegram, but i just can't move past the audit (and to a lesser extent, FOSS)
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But who knows that? It's poorly documented, obviously, as I'm a big Telegram fan, and this is the first I've heard of it.
Telegram's documentation is fantastic. Everything is updated, and their API allows building your own app. It's that open https://core.telegram.org/bots/payments ^ first result for telegram bot payments
Nice, I hadn't seen this before. Thanks!
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Telegram, the client, is fully FLOSS. You can even find it on f-droid¹, contrary to e.g. Signal, which is only available for installation via closed app stores. Do you refer to the server-stack? How would that being Open Source help you when you cannot ever verify what a server actually runs? ¹ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.telegram.messenger/
That's totally false. Here's the client you can download, compile, and side-load yourself: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android And here's the server implementation you can also run yourself: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server Telegram has also been exploited multiple times, while signal has held up against a US federal subpoena. https://www.theverge.com/2016/10/4/13161026/signal-subpoena-...
> Telegram has also been exploited multiple times
Source?
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That's totally false. Here's the client you can download, compile, and side-load yourself: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android And here's the server implementation you can also run yourself: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server Telegram has also been exploited multiple times, while signal has held up against a US federal subpoena. https://www.theverge.com/2016/10/4/13161026/signal-subpoena-...
> Telegram has also been exploited multiple times Source?
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#116This reminds me of how I used to use Teamspeak with a gaming organisation I used to be part of. It was a completely different dynamic than a video call. You could "hang out" in a room, chime in when you wanted, say nothing when you wanted. It was a lot more like working separately but with physical proximity to one another. I'm optimistic that, applied to a work context and with the same norms, this could go a long w…
I convinced my coworkers to start a discord, and we now have most of our department in there. Having the (totally optional) PTT voice channels to hang out in makes these long weeks of WFH much less solitary.
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#117I used to mainly use Telegram but their broken notifications on Android turned me off. If a chat app can't get notifications right, it's not worth using.
Telegram's notifications are the best among all apps. It works perfectly. If you view a message on desktop, it also removes the android notification.
Haven't tried Telegram but Signal does that too (Linux desktop / Android app here)
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#118Telegram, Discord, Facebook Messenger, Snapchat, WhatsApp, Hangouts/Voice/Talk/Meet/Allo/Whatever -- who will win? And without ads deeply ingrained (or highly addictive paid features like Discord has), does it matter? With the recent scrutiny of the DOJ, I wonder if Google and Facebook's business models are really all that sustainable or desirable. Discord seems to have the healthiest setup here.
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> It's one of, if not the, best UX chat message apps with so many features it's sort of mindblowing. I'd go as far as saying it's by far the best. I have used the word unnerving to describe the fact it's so beyond the rest of the competition, yet free and without a viable business model. I use Signal with friends and Matrix with other nerds.
> yet free and without a viable business model. This has been bothering me as well but seems to be solved now. All current messaging features will be free but new team features etc will be paid IIRC and AFAIK.
> seems to be solved now.
Well, we'll have to see how that pans out...
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I joined this, replied to the post, and now I'm being sent lots of creepy messages and dick pics from the men of the internet :/ Telegram has no option for "Only allow contacts to message me", it turns out. After lots of messages, they eventually offer to auto archive and mute people not on your contacts, but it's still fairly visible on the app. Perhaps Telegram should work on better abuse management before adding v…
That's bizarre. I just looked at the app and they support contacts-only limits for everything (voice, presence, profile photo, forwarded messages) _except_ for regular messages. You can't reject images from non-contacts either. It's either images from everyone or nobody. Does your chats list get filled up with these unsolicited messages from randos? It seems like they should at the very least offer a mechanism to acc…
> Does your chats list get filled up with these unsolicited messages from randos?
It was, then telegram desktop popped up with "it appears you are getting a lot of messages, would you like to automatically mute + archive those not in your contacts" or somesuch. Still, the archived folder is at the top
The only thing that stopped it was deleting my message from the community. Guess I won't be participating again :(
It certainly is an interesting example - I know nothing of their team, however things like this are also another reason as to why a diverse team is important!