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Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I read it, the comment sounded like the emphasis was on stereotypes of the culture, not the gender. Maybe you're reading too much into it.

To be clear: comments about "polite" Japanese versus "strict" Germans and "angry" Italians are also bigoted and will make many immigrant coworkers deeply uncomfortable (especially if they are women). Everything about his comment is gross and 100% inappropriate for the workplace, and civilized society in general.

As an italian-descent that wants to move to Japan and lives in a town full of german immigrants...

I have no clue what on the world you are talking about.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

#112
post #27

> Perhaps rm -rf / should be replaced with something with more verbose flags set. That way, when you run a bad command, you are told immediately that things are being deleted This gives me an idea: Hell Linux. In Hell Linux, the operating system does its best to pretend that nothing is wrong, so it takes you as long as possible to realize that you've made a mistake. Commands ignore all unrecognized flags. In shell sc…

> Hell Linux As someone who accidentally moved /etc recently, I have been into the valley of darkness and wish for no further OS pain.

Interestingly, this can be made to work; IIRC, nixos supposedly works fine like that. AFAIK, the idea being that you only need to put non-default settings in /etc.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

#113

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What's wrong with that command?

OS requires python pkgs for much core functionality. Command gets rid of all of them

... assuming you don't have any files starting with `python` in the current directory, in which case you might (or might not) be just fine.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

#114

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> the operating system does its best to pretend that nothing is wrong, so it takes you as long as possible to realize that you've made a mistake. You're describing my (modest) experience with Javascript: it fails silently. I was describing it this way to a colleague: Javascript is a Japanese girlfriend, too polite to show you your mistakes so you have a hard time to know what you did wrong. I want a rigorous German g…

I am from the left-liberal side of things, including my choice of employers, and I am always flummoxed when I come into HN and see developers a) make comments that are flagrantly bigoted and misogynistic b) indicate that they make comments like these to their colleagues Do devs really say horrible things like this at the workplace? If anyone on my team made jokes about Japanese vs. Italian girlfriends, either they wo…

> Do devs really say horrible things like this at the workplace?

Workplaces vary a lot.

In some, yes people do. This sort of thing and much stronger stuff is circulated in company-wide "joke" emails too. However there does tend to be an element of self-deprecation, in that you'll get people circulating jokes about inept women, and also jokes about inept men. Rarely in the same email of course.

In others, you'd be fired after a few repeats, as you say.

With Europe, as someone commented, some of these things can be understood in a slightly more humorous way if it's about other "friendly" European cultures, because some of the cultures are quite friendly with each other. They're not at war, so it's intended (and really meant and to some extent understood) in a more playful way. There's plenty of it, including on magazine covers.

Between England and France there's been culture jokes for a long time; I've always imagined that's a healthy modern echo of more serious hostility from a long time ago.

Similar to the way you'll see black music groups using the N word affectionately, and it's not offensive because of who is using it.

But for example even in Europe, if someone in say Germany started making ambiguous joke/not-joke jokes about modern fascists in Hungary, I don't think it would be regarded as just friendly humour for long because it touches a nerve. And when I lived in France I heard people talk about Serbians as though they are "all" quite unpleasant. So the European cultures aren't all friendly with each other. There's history there, and some kind of inter-cultural meme evolution.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

#115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am from the left-liberal side of things, including my choice of employers, and I am always flummoxed when I come into HN and see developers a) make comments that are flagrantly bigoted and misogynistic b) indicate that they make comments like these to their colleagues Do devs really say horrible things like this at the workplace? If anyone on my team made jokes about Japanese vs. Italian girlfriends, either they wo…

I came here to say I agree. To me this sort of language is unacceptable because it sorts humanity into convenient little boxes with supposedly predictable input/output behavior. In the workplace or in social settings, it can have the effect of completely alienating people. Unfortunately, at least in American culture, many of these stereotypes about what it "means" to be Japanese / German / Italian or what it means to…

I think these things are contextual. But I'll agree regardless that perhaps these are not the most sophisticated jokes in any case.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

#117
post #99

Should be called Landmine Linux as most times, suicide is not accidental whereas stepping on a Landmine usually is. Entertaining project none-the-less. Thanks.

That is a better name in all ways. It might upset people who live in former war zones though. I can't speculate there.

To be equitable, Suicide Linux might upset victims of sui-- oh. Never mind.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

#119
post #55

A problem with most commands is that they usually don't need extremely-unfortunate typos or russian-roulette-enabled shells to turn into something wrong: they are usually wrong in passing , while you're typing them. I always wondered if something could be done against the effects of an accidental premature return. Some of us have cats... `sudo rm -rf /tmp/workdir` starts with `sudo rm -rf /` `git reset libs` starts w…

I don’t know why people insist on planting land mines. There is a tool for managing workgroup arrays called foo. Among its many operations it had:

$ foo reset array $ foo reset array controller a|b

The first one resets to factory defaults. The second reboots one of the redundant controllers, a or b. We had to reconfigure and restore from tape several times.

In zfs the command to create a dataset is “zfs create toplevelname/datasetname”. The command to create a snapshot is “zfs snapshot datasetname@snapshotname”. The command to destroy either is “zfs destroy objectname”, and the objectname of a snapshot is always a valid dataset name plus an at sign plus the snapshot name. Deleting a dataset is not a reversible operation. :/

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