India is a very lucrative market for FB and other companies. 1 billion people, 2 billion eyes. No privacy laws, can easily share and sell data, govt is in the hands of Reliance (in which FB, Google and others are all investing a lot), most Indians are just getting used to the vast internet and are easily tricked.
Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fight against hate speech
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Indian population is brainwashed by the party with which FB sided How you ask? The media commonly called as Modi Media blames EVERYTHING on the opposing parties India is#1 in corona casesper day, who is to blame? Congress. Why? They are soreading fear! And now they've started using a suicide by a Film actor to stop corona news altogether. If you look at Hindi and English news they're focused on spreading conspiracies…
>Indian population is brainwashed by the party with which FB sided Just because the Indian population has realized what rubbish the Indian Congress party, it's affiliates were ( basically a KGB satellite) doesn't mean they are brainwashed. Just because Indian population doesn't like the game where all the money is for select few and rest are all poor ( communism) doesn't mean it's brainwashed. Just because Indian pop…
I van quote 2 quarters under Congress when GDP was 10
Under Modiji unemployment is at a 45yr high!
GDP is at a 5yr low and the economy is being driven underground and the new lows are beating the old lows with utter incompetence shown by the central govt.
Also we are now the #1 country by new cases. We are the only Asian country where Corona is out of control
If Congress was rubbish and we voted thes morons to power, I want rubbish congress back
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> I'll share a personal story … And your point is ? My grandmom managed to escape from Bangladesh violence, smuggled hidden amongst cattle. I don't see how that justifies fascist and Hindu supremacist policies in India. Treatment of Kashmiri pandits is a favorite talking point of the Hindu right. They are remarkably silent about other violent and forced population movement brought about by Hindus upon Hindus. Bengali…
Hindu right talks about Kashmiri Pandits because nobody else does. Can you tell me why we must keep silent about their ethnic cleansing?
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> So it's galling to me when you accuse Hindus of Hitler style tactics when they're the real victims of it. Stop thinking in terms of "X are the real victims", "Y are the real aggressors". It leads to a never-ending cycle of hatred and violence. Everyone is human, everyone deserves protection, and everyone is capable of doing good and evil at different times and in different places. GP didn't say "all Hindus" and the…
Also why should the treatment of Hindu minorities in Pakistan and Bangladesh shouldn't be up for discussion? All of these are part of the same historical narrative. Just because Muslims created a separate country and expelled most Hindus from there doesn't mean we should stop talking about it.
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The real "Hitler-Style tactics" is not any specific historical injustice, it is the promotion of tribalism and nationalism, dividing people up into "us" (who have been wronged) and "them" (who did the wrong, and therefore deserve to be punished as a group) on the basis of race, religion, etc. The opposite of Hitlerism is not Jews getting revenge on the Germans, it is liberalism. There is no room for whataboutism, bec…
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You can't post like this here. Please read the site guidelines and stick to the rules: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . " Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data. " Lots of further explanation at https://hn.alg…
And if you aren't aware BJP party in india is known to use a huge troll army to squash any dissent. This isn't my opinion. It is well documented.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/27/india-bjp-part...
https://www.huffingtonpost.in/2017/09/11/bjp-may-have-create...
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> I'll share a personal story … And your point is ? My grandmom managed to escape from Bangladesh violence, smuggled hidden amongst cattle. I don't see how that justifies fascist and Hindu supremacist policies in India. Treatment of Kashmiri pandits is a favorite talking point of the Hindu right. They are remarkably silent about other violent and forced population movement brought about by Hindus upon Hindus. Bengali…
So talking about the harms of ethnic cleansing is moping in your book? This is an attitude I constantly see among Indian liberals. They ignore all the injustices inflicted on Hindus. Would you consider talking about the Holocaust as moping? Hindu right talks about Kashmiri Pandits because nobody else does. Can you tell me why we must keep silent about their ethnic cleansing?
I cannot because I have not asked anyone to be silent about it. What I find 'moping' is refusal to move on by people who have the wherewithal to do so. Bengalis (my family included) have been persecuted with violence in many places [East Pakistan, Assam, Bihar for example]. I don't see them doing the analogue of Kashmiri pandits.
> Would you consider talking about the Holocaust as moping?
I certainly take issues with portraying Jewish holocaust as something special, and placing that as a talking point that lies above other genocides. I say this in spite of a handmade Anne Frank poster that hangs in my room.
The place where I went to school in the US the local right wing Jewish community raised a big fuss when another community showcased a violent and lethal part of their history using a symbolic display of shoes. Their claim was that genocide and such symbolic displays are an exclusive right that they own. This I totally reject.
After Mumbai 26/11 happened, I went to attend a vigil mourning the death of Jewish people killed in the terror attack. I was quite disappointed by the rhetoric displayed there. Not a word was said about Indian people who were killed in the attack. It was all about how Jewish people have been hounded everywhere. The implication being India is also such a place. This is particularly ironic because Jewish immigrants have enjoyed the greatest goodwill for centuries in India. You would know that Jewish settlements in India go far back in time than European settlements and that anti-Jewish narrative is an European thing that has no counterpart in India.
I generally dislike the narrative 'I am a victimized helpless snowflake who did nobody no wrong' whenever anyone plays that less than truthfully.
Bring the history to light, get reparations when applicable, and move on when one is in a position to do so.