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Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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If the intelligence community can't publicly deny that perhaps the most prolific child rapist in known history was an asset, we have serious problems. Regardless of standard policy.

Imagine being a regular forces soldier at a base in Afghanistan who discovers that an allied local commander likes to rape little boys. On base. Imagine being told that you can't do anything about it, because if you piss him off Americans will die. The world is a really, really, really shitty place for the powerless and for naive idealists. Epstein was scum, but he's not as bad as some of the people we regularly work…

If upholding the puppet government in Afghanistan requires allying with pederasts the US should get out. Afghanistan has never had anything worth an occupation. The only reason the US is still there is to try and wash away the stain of Vietnam. As soon as the US leaves the Taliban will take over again within a year, just like al Shahab in Somalia. Afghanistan is already lost because there's no appetite to completely remake the country; colonialism has gone out of style.

There are evil men in Afghanistan raping boys and there are evil men in Washington defending allowing them to do so.

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Intelligence agencies never confirm or deny such things, and how can you debunk something that's not currently possible to prove or disprove? I think almost no one, including the media, knows what really happened. There are a huge array of different forking possibilities.

If the intelligence community can't publicly deny that perhaps the most prolific child rapist in known history was an asset, we have serious problems. Regardless of standard policy.

Lol, it's extremely naïve to think that this is the worst or even unusually troubling story in the list of Mossad of CIA operations.

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Wexner is a long time, major financier of Republicans at the state and national level. He’ll never see any investigation, outside maybe some investor suits because L Brands stock is tanking.

This is not a partisan issue. This goes well beyond those lines.

What about Epstein's black book? Does that go beyond party lines?

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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The details around his relationship with Les Wexner (billionaire owner of L Brands; Victoria's Secret, Bath and Body Works, etc.) are especially bizarre. Wexner gave Epstein power of attorney; basically granting control of all of his financial assets!

Epstein was good at what he did plus he had lots of money from the ponzi scheme he was involved with. Wexner is also widely believed to be gay. In his case, I don’t think blackmail is probable considering the power of a smart, rich, confidence artist. I’m sure there’s no doubt that a variety of intelligence agencies and private groups targeted Epstein for information. But I’m skeptical that this all originated as any…

You think someone who built multiple retail empires would give someone power of attorney because they seemed skilled? Power of attorney transfer is for people who are dying or mentally disabled.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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I enjoy a good conspiracy theory as entertainment, but I'm kind of having a mind blown moment with this Epstein stuff...

Same here. It's incredibly striking to sort of see the pieces laid out in front of you, really _feel_ that they put together facts, but not have the glue you need to objectively/factually put them all together. To me it feels like the "Israeli operative" scenario seems pretty legit.

So what, could this be a key aspect of Israeli influence in the US? I mean, through entrapment of politicians.

I don't know anything about Mossad. But I do know that sexual blackmail was a key tool of the KGB. Along with simple greed, of course.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

#116

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The details around his relationship with Les Wexner (billionaire owner of L Brands; Victoria's Secret, Bath and Body Works, etc.) are especially bizarre. Wexner gave Epstein power of attorney; basically granting control of all of his financial assets!

Epstein was good at what he did plus he had lots of money from the ponzi scheme he was involved with. Wexner is also widely believed to be gay. In his case, I don’t think blackmail is probable considering the power of a smart, rich, confidence artist. I’m sure there’s no doubt that a variety of intelligence agencies and private groups targeted Epstein for information. But I’m skeptical that this all originated as any…

The Towers Financial Ponzi scheme you're referring to could only have netted Epstein $475 million, in reality much less because he would not have collected the entirety of investor losses. It's clear he controlled much more money than that.

Also, I think it's still just an allegation from Epstein's partner Steve Hoffenberg that he came away with anything from the ponzi, which would be quite a stunning turn of events given that the SEC strangely elected to not to prosecute him for the Towers Financial outcome at all. Aside from your post I've only ever heard the idea suggested on Epstein conspiracy podcasts like Ed Opperman's.

Also, I see your account was created just this evening. How's the mood in the Wexner mansion these days?

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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If the intelligence community can't publicly deny that perhaps the most prolific child rapist in known history was an asset, we have serious problems. Regardless of standard policy.

> the most prolific child rapist in known history I think maybe your cynicism is misplaced. The world is a far uglier place than your comment presumes. And relative to the kinds of people intelligence agencies must deal with sometimes, Epstein's crimes and alleged crimes probably wouldn't raise an eyebrow. (Which isn't a comment on whether they were blackmail worthy.)

It all depends on what really happened.

First off, he may have had no involvement with intelligence whatsoever, or beyond being interrogated after his arrest.

If the intelligence agencies did set all of this up and told him to get real underaged girls (rather than actors pretending to be underaged) to blackmail people, or knew this was happening and allowed it to continue for so long, that'd actually be big. That's state-sponsored child sex trafficking and rape. But there are so many other possibilities in between that and "no involvement".

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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This is not a partisan issue. This goes well beyond those lines.

What about Epstein's black book? Does that go beyond party lines?

Actually yeah it does, tons of people tied to both major parties along with big name CEOs and famous celebrites and media figures are in it.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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there is a strong case to be made that Epstein could still be alive. Per interviews with the victims he video recorded EVERYTHING at his properties. Pinhole cameras, CCTVs in bedrooms/showers etc you name it. Chances are in order to protect himself - he had blackmail material on people we all know. If acts described by the victims were secretly taped then those people are royally (pun intended) screwed. Now the real…

oh... wow cool story
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