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Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by hylaride » Wed, Feb 05, 2020, 7:49 PM UTC

Relys wrote: post #37

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #32

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>what is their law enforcements motivation for finding her? If even a fraction of what is alleged about Epstein's schemes is true then whoever has her can obtain the kind of dirt that multi-billion dollar intelligence agencies can only dream of. As another commenters said she is probably in Israel. By virtue of connections and it having a very big stake in not pissing off the US too much she is unlikely to get the $5…

Who's not to say that they weren't already intelligence assets and this whole kompromat operation was actually ran by a nation-state or collection of nation-states?

I enjoy a good conspiracy theory as entertainment, but I'm kind of having a mind blown moment with this Epstein stuff...

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by nacs » Wed, Feb 05, 2020, 8:02 PM UTC

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #6

judge2020 wrote: post #4

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Off-topic but for some reason i'm now able to access archive.is via Cloudflare. Queries using 1^4 over DoH are only failing about 1/2 of the time (datacenter ATL).

me too, but only after solving 20 captchas - classic clownflare :)

The number of captchas for the "I am not a robot" checkbox you have to solve is decided by Google's algorithms -- not really a Cloudflare choice other than them allowing their users to show that Captcha page in the first place.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by OnlineGladiator » Wed, Feb 05, 2020, 8:21 PM UTC

siv- wrote: post #31

marriedWpt wrote: post #22

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The private sector goes out of business. The government lives until it collapses.

> lives until it collapses. Usually due to government intervention. Corrupt and bloated businesses also "live until they collapse". I trust in democracy more than markets.

> I trust in democracy more than markets.

I don't. People vote against their best interests all the time. The SF housing market is self-inflicted from people voting against new housing, because many of them don't understand the concept of supply and demand.

Neither markets nor democracy are perfect, but at least free markets are efficient.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by ra5 » Wed, Feb 05, 2020, 8:29 PM UTC

hylaride wrote: post #41

Relys wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's not to say that they weren't already intelligence assets and this whole kompromat operation was actually ran by a nation-state or collection of nation-states?

I enjoy a good conspiracy theory as entertainment, but I'm kind of having a mind blown moment with this Epstein stuff...

Same here. It's incredibly striking to sort of see the pieces laid out in front of you, really _feel_ that they put together facts, but not have the glue you need to objectively/factually put them all together.

To me it feels like the "Israeli operative" scenario seems pretty legit.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by krapp » Wed, Feb 05, 2020, 8:32 PM UTC

OnlineGladiator wrote: post #43

siv- wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> lives until it collapses. Usually due to government intervention. Corrupt and bloated businesses also "live until they collapse". I trust in democracy more than markets.

> I trust in democracy more than markets. I don't. People vote against their best interests all the time. The SF housing market is self-inflicted from people voting against new housing, because many of them don't understand the concept of supply and demand. Neither markets nor democracy are perfect, but at least free markets are efficient.

>Neither markets nor democracy are perfect, but at least free markets are efficient.

Markets (free and otherwise) work against people's best interests all the time as well, in which case their efficiency is not a virtue.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by Relys » Wed, Feb 05, 2020, 8:45 PM UTC

ra5 wrote: post #44

hylaride wrote: post #41

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I enjoy a good conspiracy theory as entertainment, but I'm kind of having a mind blown moment with this Epstein stuff...

Same here. It's incredibly striking to sort of see the pieces laid out in front of you, really _feel_ that they put together facts, but not have the glue you need to objectively/factually put them all together. To me it feels like the "Israeli operative" scenario seems pretty legit.

Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of an alleged Mossad (Israeli Intelligence) operative. Coming from someone who hates conspiracy theories, I think this one isn't too far fetched.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by Consultant32452 » Wed, Feb 05, 2020, 8:47 PM UTC

searcher1 wrote: post #7

I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that the simplest explanation for investigations being constantly spiked or important evidence repeatedly disappearing during Epstein's life, is that enough high-ranking officials got invited to "parties" and slept with his underage sex slaves (or worse) on video, and were then blackmailed. The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also…

I've come to the conclusion that he was an intelligence asset. The dog that doesn't bark is the fact that, to my knowledge, there are no on the record statements from the intelligence community which deny he was an asset.

What's even more conspicuous is that there is clearly a strong interest by the public. Even if all these "conspiracy theories" are false, you could get a LOT of viewership just going around debunking them. But it's like complete silence from the traditional corporate media.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by mc32 » Wed, Feb 05, 2020, 9:03 PM UTC

searcher1 wrote: post #7

I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that the simplest explanation for investigations being constantly spiked or important evidence repeatedly disappearing during Epstein's life, is that enough high-ranking officials got invited to "parties" and slept with his underage sex slaves (or worse) on video, and were then blackmailed. The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also…

I wonder if Ronan could working on this story (along with others who had their stories spiked). He’s often gone where other reporters don’t dare but maybe this one is beyond even him.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by AndrewBissell » Wed, Feb 05, 2020, 9:07 PM UTC

clubm8 wrote: post #36

AndrewBissell wrote: post #5

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The FBI still hasn't raided Epstein's New Mexico ranch. Probably a lot of potentially fruitful leads are not being pursued.

Do you have a source on this, this is the first I've heard of it.

There were widespread reports and NYT articles when the NYC mansion and Little Saint James island were raided. The last word on the New Mexico ranch was a CBS report in August that it still had not been raided, and there's been zero word since. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-news-ranch-new-...

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by MockObject » Wed, Feb 05, 2020, 9:11 PM UTC

clubm8 wrote: post #36

AndrewBissell wrote: post #5

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The FBI still hasn't raided Epstein's New Mexico ranch. Probably a lot of potentially fruitful leads are not being pursued.

Do you have a source on this, this is the first I've heard of it.

The source is that you've never heard of this ranch being raided.