Many commenters seem to miss the most important point here. If users from Russia can't access ProtonMail - that's not that much of a deal. But if mail from ProtonMail stops reaching Russian email addresses - @mail.ru, @yandex.ru are as common in Russia as @gmail.com - that's a big problem for ProtonMail and its users.
If you're in russia and you're using an email address at a .ru TLD... you're doing it wrong.
Russia blocks ProtonMail
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Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Well, that in my eyes is a very solid advertising in favour of ProtonMail. In context of 5/9/14+ eyes, the nomenclature of solid advertising might differ from your interpretation, where perceptions matter ─ ranging from honeypots, compromised Tor exit nodes to dubious VPN providers, absence of warrant canaries to flawed encryption products etc. It is probably best to exercise caution and remain sceptical, rather tha…
We all work with incomplete information and we have to deal with that every day. Your comment to me reads like "you can be killed by a micro-meteorite if you go out so stay in an underground bunker". Of course there are flawed VPNs and honeypot Tor nodes out there. The fight to track people and censor information is ongoing 24/7 around the globe. Random event or not, if a government feels that it has to plug a leak a…
The government does not need to tell you anything and when it says it can't 'break' something, try and remember ─ you can dance like nobody is watching, but make sure you encrypt like everybody is watching.
Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're in russia and you're using an email address at a .ru TLD... you're doing it wrong.
How many US citizens are using a US-based email provider?
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#114Well, that in my eyes is a very solid advertising in favour of ProtonMail. And it's not like Russians, Chinese and generally people in countries whose governments are in the habit of censoring the internet aren't used to using Tor and/or VPNs to dodge censorship.
Remember Lavabit.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
And if those bomb threats proved right and people get killed? Would you still praise Proton for not working with Law enforcement?
I would. It's not Protonmail who's to be blamed for the potential attack and deaths. There are series of events that lead to people deciding to be terrorists. I'd focus on those reasons rather than hotfixing stuff by exposing 99.9% of other Protonmail users. I would never opt in to affect 99.9% of users because of 0.01% of users. We are all educated enough through events in recent history that clearly tell us how sim…
there are so many steps in that process where someone can be busted.. also keep in mind that most terrorist organisation are already infiltrated, and the "agents" are just waiting for the right time to bust them (not too early so they have enough evidence/they learn more about the connections/ resources) and not so late that there is a chance for the attack to go through.
This is why London attacks wete effective, it was lone wolves.
Every time I see in the news that "a bomb failed to go off and X arrests were made" I feel that the 3-letter-agencies gave "them" playdoh instead of .
Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail
#116Well, that in my eyes is a very solid advertising in favour of ProtonMail. And it's not like Russians, Chinese and generally people in countries whose governments are in the habit of censoring the internet aren't used to using Tor and/or VPNs to dodge censorship.
I would be very surprised if certain agencies wouldn't have a nice search box for any content on ProtonMail (as it is for Gmail, etc if we believe Snowden). Remember Lavabit.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hope so. When the phone system was manually-operated switch boards, should the phone companies have been responsible for listening to every call and reporting suspicious activity to the police?
That's not the same scenario. Your scenario involves listening to everyone. The GP's scenario involves listening to a specific person with probable cause.
Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail
#118Many commenters seem to miss the most important point here. If users from Russia can't access ProtonMail - that's not that much of a deal. But if mail from ProtonMail stops reaching Russian email addresses - @mail.ru, @yandex.ru are as common in Russia as @gmail.com - that's a big problem for ProtonMail and its users.
Since the authorities have access to mail.ru emails, their wishes can be partially fulfilled only if mail.ru continues to receive mail from ProtonMail. So I'd bet it'll still work.
Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail
#119Many commenters seem to miss the most important point here. If users from Russia can't access ProtonMail - that's not that much of a deal. But if mail from ProtonMail stops reaching Russian email addresses - @mail.ru, @yandex.ru are as common in Russia as @gmail.com - that's a big problem for ProtonMail and its users.
If you're in russia and you're using an email address at a .ru TLD... you're doing it wrong.
Re: Russia blocks ProtonMail
#120It isn't just Russia. Every major country is increasing surveillance drastically. As for smaller countries, well they're probably covertly manipulated by the bigger powers to such an extent that their claim for privacy is valid only so long as you don't cross one of the big powers. And if all else fails, it seems outright bans are being increasingly used. The best way to pushback against this would be if all of us wo…