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Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by hinkley »

bloopernova wrote: post #34

I just wish that MX Master 3 had a couple of extra buttons by the thumb. My 3 thumb buttons on my Logitech G500 are mapped to: Page Up, Page Down, and Back. Clicking and holding the Page Up button can rapidly take me back to the top of a page without moving my right hand to hit the home key on my keyboard. It's pretty useful, in my opinion, to be able to roughly and quickly scroll with Page Up/Down, then fine tune wi…

Do you know about the button in the thumb rest? That'll be #3 for me. It looks like in the Logitech literature this is called the 'gesture button', and if memory serves it was introduced on the original MX, when they took away the third thumb button.

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Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by Waterluvian »

lilyball wrote: post #53

I love the Logitech hardware quality but I really wish they'd work on their software quality. I'm using a G502 at work right now with Logitech Gaming Software and the two completely baffling decisions they made with that software on macOS: 1. It has to be running. If I launch it for configuration and hit ⌘Q it stops working and my mouse reverts to the default. I have to remember to close the window instead, which lea…

Texas-sized 10-4 on that. I had to go find a windows PC and install thr software in order to configure the spinny wheel click stop tension thing because there was absolutely no way to do it in Linux. The default mode was infuriating.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by hinkley »

TheSoftwareGuy wrote: post #81
bloopernova wrote: post #34

I just wish that MX Master 3 had a couple of extra buttons by the thumb. My 3 thumb buttons on my Logitech G500 are mapped to: Page Up, Page Down, and Back. Clicking and holding the Page Up button can rapidly take me back to the top of a page without moving my right hand to hit the home key on my keyboard. It's pretty useful, in my opinion, to be able to roughly and quickly scroll with Page Up/Down, then fine tune wi…

Thumb buttons are hugely under-rated in my opinion. Its the sole reason I bought my G600.

I used to play a melee character in a game, and I had the buttons mapped to autorun, stop autorun, and back up. I never had to move my hands to follow a target, which greatly improved my uptime.

I think on the later mouse, with only two buttons, I retrained myself to use 'back up' to stop autorun, but it was important to me that I could mash the first button to start running and not have to worry about how many times I hit it.

Like OP said, for other apps I had it mapped to page-up/-down and back button and it made it a lot easier to focus on the code or documentation I was reading, instead of on navigating.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by hinkley »

jandrese wrote: post #6
nwah1 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the thumb buttons seem much better. USB-C is an upgrade. Only thing that is missing is a wireless charging. Some competitors use Qi charging or a special mousepad, so there's never a need to plug it in. In 2010, Logitech released a solar-powered keyboard called the K750. Now that batteries and PV cells are improving, and low energy wireless technology is improving, I bet this would be less terrible. Also in 2010…

The power density on WiFi is minuscule. FCC Regulations mean you can transmit at a max of 300mW only, and the power you receive is affected by the Inverse Square Law on top of that, so total delivered power to your device is fractions of a mW unless your wireless router is right next to the router. Even then the entire process tends to be rather inefficient on top of that so the math probably doesn't work out. The Qi…

> FCC Regulations mean you can transmit at a max of 300mW only

Is that new? When I was originally playing with dd-wrt I was under the impression that 100 was the limit, discovered my AP was defaulting to something like 70mW, and would allow you to go higher.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by hinkley »

nwah1 wrote: post #3
cmer wrote: post #2

I've been using the 2S for a while and just bought the MX 3 because I needed an extra mouse. They managed to improve an already near-perfect mouse. I just love the 3. Probably not worth ditching your 2S for, but nonetheless, a superb upgrade. I always felt the thumb buttons were awkward on the 2S and that has been rectified. The magnetic wheel is also really nice to use.

Yes, the thumb buttons seem much better. USB-C is an upgrade. Only thing that is missing is a wireless charging. Some competitors use Qi charging or a special mousepad, so there's never a need to plug it in. In 2010, Logitech released a solar-powered keyboard called the K750. Now that batteries and PV cells are improving, and low energy wireless technology is improving, I bet this would be less terrible. Also in 2010…

Generator in the mouse wheel and under the left click button.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by anewguy9000 »

lilyball wrote: post #53

I love the Logitech hardware quality but I really wish they'd work on their software quality. I'm using a G502 at work right now with Logitech Gaming Software and the two completely baffling decisions they made with that software on macOS: 1. It has to be running. If I launch it for configuration and hit ⌘Q it stops working and my mouse reverts to the default. I have to remember to close the window instead, which lea…

cant the software settings be saved to mouse memory? thats the case with my mx and it works as configured between multiple machines

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by baroffoos »

whalesalad wrote: post #59
lilyball wrote: post #53

I love the Logitech hardware quality but I really wish they'd work on their software quality. I'm using a G502 at work right now with Logitech Gaming Software and the two completely baffling decisions they made with that software on macOS: 1. It has to be running. If I launch it for configuration and hit ⌘Q it stops working and my mouse reverts to the default. I have to remember to close the window instead, which lea…

Logitech software is a dumpster fire. For a while there it would start and go to 170-190% CPU and just burn until it was killed. I share your experience and frustration.

I'm so glad linux usually contains reverse engineered drivers that are open source so everything just works out of the box with logitech.
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