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Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Pretty nostalgic seeing a pre MS giant resume from Gates. Also .. look at how simple a resume is. Raw ascii text, few paragraphs .. done. #dubugging

Raw ascii text It was typed on a manual typewriter - you can tell by the weight of the punctuation.

well you got what I meant, also, wasn't ASCII already a thing at the time ?

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Height, weight, current salary? Were these things you commonly kept on your resume in the 1970s? I honestly can’t imagine listing any of that today.

Marital status too...

Back then they were quite overtly discriminatory about marriage status, gender, having children or not, disabilities, age, divorce. Indeed, apartment buildings often refused to rent to families with children.

In the 70's, people speaking against race discrimination were viewed as center left but people decrying discrimination on these other grounds were considered far left. Even on otherwise "progressive" period TV shows, these positions would be satirized (eg the characters played by Beatrice Arthur and Rob Reiner were satires much of the time. The Mary Tyler Moore character was originally written as a divorcee)

And though legislation had recently curtailed ethnicity and religion from being _publicly_ discriminated, it was still seen as ok to discriminate for public facing positions: Connie Chung's position as news reader was considered definite proof of media liberal bias. Indeed, advocating equality for public facing positions or for persons with disabilities was viewed as completely unrealistic.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

#114

Pay attention to the $15K salary he wants- that's about $75K in today's money. Not much has changed,even though companies nowadays make many tons more money from the dev work...

This is the CV of an 18/19 year old, don't forget. In context this CV would have screamed 'whizz-kid' at anyone that saw it.

If we're being pedantic, aside from "Harvard," it wouldn't have screamed much to most people in 1974: "What are all these acronyms, and what on earth is an 'operating system'?" This resume was written three years before anyone normal had access to a computer. I'm not even sure how many bank branches and travel agents had a terminal yet.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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I'm amused that such a resume would be binned by many HR departments. That is some HR depatments, are so bad at their job, that they will literally lose your company the chance to get a Bill-gates-caliber dev. I mean obviously if he gets to the technical interview, an engineer can see that he is competent. But they question is would such a resume get past HR?

What do you mean? In 1974 this would have been a state-of-the-art resume. He typed it on a typewriter, and he's got loads of experience with computers. In 1974 thats really going to stand out.

- typos

- not mentioning highschool graduation year (But I suppose this could be hidden in the bottom)

Both these things, I've seen and heard HR employess toss CVs over in real life as well as from people talking online.

But I guess, I migh've been too biased in what I'm saying. since I'm european so there a different standards for resumes.

I've had an argument this week with the head of HR, because an employee threw the cv of a work student which had a Lüke ( a hole) in his resume. I guess I was overprojecting, which made my message too overexagerated. sorry.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Now it's personal pronouns and gender. Seeing more and more on resumes. I didn't ask if you were "genderqueer", don't care and it has nothing to do with our open front end dev position.

wow you sound pretty aggressive about something that is quite innocuous.

I was stating an observation about things people (voluntarily) currently put on resumes (not applications where things have actual questions/predetermined choices) that don't have anything to do with the job. To us, gender is irrelevant in terms of a job, just like height/weight/previous salary, which is what I was responding to. You seem to have a very loose definition of aggressive.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? In 1974 this would have been a state-of-the-art resume. He typed it on a typewriter, and he's got loads of experience with computers. In 1974 thats really going to stand out.

this person is pulling out the old saw of "no mention of new sexy technologies like node graphql etc" about resume from a 1974 Harvard student. lol. newsflash those were all hot tech in 1974 and besides any year in the last 100 (including 2019) a Harvard student gets priority rather than binned.

- no, I didn't mean that.

> newsflash those were all hot tech in 1974 and besides any year in the last 100 (including 2019) a Harvard student gets priority rather than binned.

I'm european, so I don't really see that many harvard grads. But everythign being equal, why would I give a harvard grad priority over someone from L'X, ETH, mines, oxford, MIT..

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Do a lot of first year computer science students get paid $75k/year? I know internships can easily earn that but my understanding is they go to 4th year students.

As a data point, the University of Waterloo releases data about hourly earnings for students enrolled in the co-op program. The first co-op term for students in Mathematics (the faculty Computer Science is under) is typically taken after completing 2-3 semesters of schooling. According to the data for students doing internships in the United States, the average first year Computer Science (or more accurate, first yea…

It's worth noting that Waterloo is probably the #1 undergraduate program (at least in North America) in terms of industry placement and co-op programs. Their students are heavily sought-after.

(This doesn't disqualify any of what you said; it's just worth pointing out for those who are unfamiliar with the program.)

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Any success getting a job after mentioning it?

Not OP, but i dont think they would have an issue getting hired at any good tech company worth working for because of that. As an anecdote, last year we hired a woman who outright told us she would like to start working next month, but then would immediately need to take 4-6 months off for a paid parental leave, as she was due somewhat soon (i forgot whether we provide 4 or 6 months; i think it is 6, but i dont remem…

Why is that surprising? At a larger company, one person being missing is not a big deal. At a small company where you are not trying to get as many smart people (tm) as possible, but you have an immediate need, you can’t afford to keep a req open for six months waiting on someone to come back from maternal/paternal leave. Unpaid leave is one thing - you can usually find a contractor to make up the difference.
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