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Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Do a lot of first year computer science students get paid $75k/year? I know internships can easily earn that but my understanding is they go to 4th year students.

A lot of first year cs students have under a year of experience and can only list python, Java and possibly C++ under proficiencies. What's more sad is when you try hiring at a job fair and 300 4th year / master's students also only have python/Java/C++ with no side projects.

Plus several years more of coursework.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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At some point there used to be electric typewriters with a 1 or 2 line buffer that they'd show on a black and white LCD. I don't know whether they had a spellchecker, but it wouldn't be hard to add one.

It would if they didn't have sufficient compute, RAM, ROM. Something that can buffer and edit 2 lines (~160 byte, and not necessarily 8-bit ones either) does not necessarily want to add hundreds of kilobytes of dictionary and the code to look things up in it.

There were electronic typewriters with spell and grammar checking.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Pay attention to the $15K salary he wants- that's about $75K in today's money. Not much has changed,even though companies nowadays make many tons more money from the dev work...

Do a lot of first year computer science students get paid $75k/year? I know internships can easily earn that but my understanding is they go to 4th year students.

As a data point, the University of Waterloo releases data about hourly earnings for students enrolled in the co-op program. The first co-op term for students in Mathematics (the faculty Computer Science is under) is typically taken after completing 2-3 semesters of schooling.

According to the data for students doing internships in the United States, the average first year Computer Science (or more accurate, first year Faculty of Mathematics) student is making $30.57 USD an hour [0]. However, going to the States is typically a function of one's experience, and so this is more common in upper years.

If you take the average for work terms in Canada, the average first year (or more accurately, first year Faculty of Mathematics student) makes $18.84 CAD [1].

[0] https://uwaterloo.ca/co-operative-education/about-co-op/co-o...

[1] https://uwaterloo.ca/co-operative-education/about-co-op/co-o...

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Pay attention to the $15K salary he wants- that's about $75K in today's money. Not much has changed,even though companies nowadays make many tons more money from the dev work...

That's not the salary he wants, it's his salary at the time of writing of the CV. His desired salary is listed as "open".

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Despite it being a violation today, I get the point of wanting to know marital status. But why height and weight?

As I understand it, resumes were more like a personal trading card with things like your hobbies and clubs you belonged to. As time went on it, it shed a lot of the details that wouldn't be of interest to employers. So maybe height & weight stuck around in a more standardized resume.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do a lot of first year computer science students get paid $75k/year? I know internships can easily earn that but my understanding is they go to 4th year students.

A lot of first year cs students have under a year of experience and can only list python, Java and possibly C++ under proficiencies. What's more sad is when you try hiring at a job fair and 300 4th year / master's students also only have python/Java/C++ with no side projects.

Personally speaking, vast proficiency in any given language or languages doesn't mean that much to me. You'll pick up es6 or go or whatever else. I care about the thought processes behind development choices, their implications on computational efficiency. They teach this in school, at least in the schools I attended.

In fact, many professors were adamant they didn't care about languages at all other than someone grading it can read it. Some classes never wanted to see your source code. Most classes didn't have code at all!

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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Pay attention to the $15K salary he wants- that's about $75K in today's money. Not much has changed,even though companies nowadays make many tons more money from the dev work...

Interesting that you paid attention to his salary. What about his course work? What about the hardware and languages he knows? He was more skilled than the average developer today in his freshman year.

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

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post #24

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;) Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to develop a "manual" typewriter that warns the user that they are about to make a spelling mistake, possibly keeping the whole word in a buffer until they handle the warning. The warning itself can be performed via any means, including but not limited to an electrical zap.

At some point there used to be electric typewriters with a 1 or 2 line buffer that they'd show on a black and white LCD. I don't know whether they had a spellchecker, but it wouldn't be hard to add one.

They were definitely available in the early eighties: https://www.nytimes.com/1984/11/23/business/typewriters-of-e...

Re: Bill Gates Resume (1974)

#60

Pay attention to the $15K salary he wants- that's about $75K in today's money. Not much has changed,even though companies nowadays make many tons more money from the dev work...

Interesting that you paid attention to his salary. What about his course work? What about the hardware and languages he knows? He was more skilled than the average developer today in his freshman year.

Oh,I've seen that part as well, however there were also some very good comments made by other users on that section.Bill was doing stuff on a computer since the childhood,so by the time he walked into the uni he already knew more than an average guy.
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