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Re: Instagram Advertising: Do you know it when you see it?

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Post by rchaud » Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 3:03 PM UTC

tpetry wrote: post #22

moksly wrote: post #20

I’m not on Instagram, but I don’t think this issue is really confined to social media. I’ve become quite concerned about is how advertising is drowning out useful information everywhere else as well. We recently had a baby girl, our first, and this has lead to quite a lot of internet searching. I’ve been completely unable to find anything resembling an authentic answer on google. It’s all commercial content trying to…

Yeah it is really horrible: Years ago you could google specific products or product categorizes to find meaningfully reviews to choose the „best“ product. Nowadays google is filled with shop listings (for specific products) and listings of some products with amazon referral links. The review part is completely gone.

Music reviews on Amazon were a dream back in 2008 or so. Far from the pretentious babble on Pitchfork and sites of that ilk, you could get concise, single paragraph reviews from regular people trying to explain what they liked/didn't like on the record.

Those days are long gone, since everybody streams now, and genuine user reviews have dried up. Last.fm was another great site, but it's a ghost town now, and the band comments sections are full of spam.

At least rateyourmusic.com is still chugging along.

Re: Instagram Advertising: Do you know it when you see it?

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Post by denzil_correa » Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 3:50 PM UTC

pier25 wrote: post #101

dustingetz wrote: post #100

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Reddit is not quite as compromised as amazon reviews but is fast approaching it.

It's always helpful to check how old a user is and his karma.

A lot of marketers buy accounts with decent karma.

Re: Instagram Advertising: Do you know it when you see it?

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Post by mc32 » Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 4:08 PM UTC

jasode wrote: post #96

mc32 wrote: post #89

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Do you think mainstream search engines someday will provide a “commercial search” and “non-commercial search” buttons side-by-side? SEO/ad gamed and non SEO/ad-gamed? I dream of the day, but unless the government makes it a requirement I don’t see them doing it as it could undermine their business model to some extent (although I think people who want to buy will make use of the “commercial search”)

>Do you think mainstream search engines someday will provide a “commercial search” and “non-commercial search” buttons side-by-side? SEO/ad gamed and non SEO/ad-gamed? If we put on our computer science hats on to attempt an algorithm to classify the "commercial" from "non-commercial", what would that look like? Distinguishing ads that are disguised as innocent posts vs authentically innocent posts is a very hard prob…

I guess I’m wondering if we could see a return to a more no frills SERPS like we used to see with Page-rank or Altavista

I don’t mind the ads, but I do mind the content farms and useless fluff that ends up on the first SERP of a query. Or links to pages with no substantive content related to a query except SEO.

Re: Instagram Advertising: Do you know it when you see it?

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Post by CaptainMarvel » Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 4:47 PM UTC

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #56

moksly wrote: post #20

I’m not on Instagram, but I don’t think this issue is really confined to social media. I’ve become quite concerned about is how advertising is drowning out useful information everywhere else as well. We recently had a baby girl, our first, and this has lead to quite a lot of internet searching. I’ve been completely unable to find anything resembling an authentic answer on google. It’s all commercial content trying to…

Try https://millionshort.com Search without the top 1m (or 100k) sites. Far from perfect, but it tunes out an awful lot of the commerce that Google prioritise. You start finding the old school forums and info sites that are mostly invisible to Google.

I’ve been looking for something like this for over a year. Thank you.

Re: Instagram Advertising: Do you know it when you see it?

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Post by puranjay » Tue, Jun 25, 2019, 6:52 PM UTC

propogandist wrote: post #78

puranjay wrote: post #55

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The ads in my wife's feed, who still has her Facebook account, on the other hand, are very well targeted. This makes me think that maybe Instagram depends heavily on your Facebook data for targeting, and that deleting your Facebook (not disabling; deleting) actually does delete your data from Facebook

On facebook you explicitly provide them information on things like gender, language and basic demographics that advertisers use for targeting. On IG they may need to infer this information from your online activities if your FB is closed. That said, I don't see this being a data gap for too long.

I just assumed that Facebook would still use my Facebook data it had already stored before I deleted my account.