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AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Yup. Just waiting on the benchmarks from independent reviewers and to see how XFR in this generation works but I’ll be getting a Ryzen 9 if everything checks out. 24 threads will be amazing for local development (microk8s, and others) when I’m not gaming and save me from having to build a separate box.

What will you be doing that will actually use 24 threads?

make -j24

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

#113
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Potentially is a yield issue / segmentation issue. Releasing the top SKU as a 12 core instead of 16 core part gives AMD: 1.) Still the highest core count "Mainstream" part. I would expect Intel to fire back with a higher IPC / thread performance part rather then try and ramp core counts. Outside of productivity, content creation and server workloads I really don't see the need for anything past 6-8 cores right now. 2…

1) Intel won't be able to, at least not until they finally manage to get the new architecture out. Heat is already a huge issue for intel. 2) AMD might be saving perfect core chiplets, but probably mostly for use in EPYC as the margins are higher. 4) I expect 16 core am4 to arrive someday.

Good point on EPYC, I had assumed these would be using a different design like earlier generations, but the chiplet design makes this not only possible, but likely where the best chiplets are going.

I agree that 16 core will arrive this generation, but I could also see it being 6 months or so. I have also wondered if it is waiting for a second generation I/O die with an enhanced memory controller to feed the extra cores.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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post #105

I'm really looking forward to this. But one issue with current AMD cpu is that you have to buy a desktop GPU even when you are not doing any kind of gaming and such. I know intel iGPU haven't been terribly good but for work they are good enough and is one less part and cheaper to boot. For same performance a Ryzen 3rd gen + gpu might still be cheaper but the price advantage gets reduced. I haven't really seen that me…

Funny I feel the opposite. If I'm going to build a desktop, I figure I would get a GPU either way (having a full discrete GPU being one of the main advantages of desktops over more portable formats). I feel like I'm wasting money if I go with Intel that comes with an iGPU that I won't use.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Maybe ThreadRipper 3000 will have 24/32/48 cores.

the problem is new TR is not on their 2019 roadmap PPT

That's too bad, it's a really neat chip line. More PCI-E lanes than a Xeon E5 without the ridiculous premium.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

#117
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Wouldn't that be the domain of ThreadRipper?

Not if AMD's looking to remove ThreadRipper from their product stack, and segment their server chips a little more.

ThreadRipper is not going away:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-threadripper-roadmap-r...

Quote: You will definitely see more Threadrippers from us

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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post #105

I'm really looking forward to this. But one issue with current AMD cpu is that you have to buy a desktop GPU even when you are not doing any kind of gaming and such. I know intel iGPU haven't been terribly good but for work they are good enough and is one less part and cheaper to boot. For same performance a Ryzen 3rd gen + gpu might still be cheaper but the price advantage gets reduced. I haven't really seen that me…

Yep. Intel iGPUs have good open source Linux drivers too. I had hoped that AMD would have some basic graphics in the IO die, but it looks like that won't happen.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

#119
It's not clear to me from TFA:

Do any existing AM4 mobos / chipsets have support for full PCIe 4.0 bandwith (64Gbps)?

Or will the existing mobos be limited to PCIe 3.0 (~5-6Gbps)?

  All of the five processors will
  be PCIe 4.0 enabled, and while
  they are being accompanied by
  the new X570 chipset launch,
  they still use the same AM4
  socket, meaning some AMD 300
  and 400- series motherboards can
  still be used.
I was just reading about PCIe 4.0 and 5.0 yesterday [0], and some quick research indicates only a week ago it was announced some current AMD boards do support PCIe 4.0 [1].

Would be awesome because the rate when transferring terabytes across SSD RAID arrays will see a 3-10x increase from ~500-600MBps to ~1.5-6GBps+. Fantastic!

[0] https://videocardz.com/review/pci-express-riser-extender-tes...

[1] https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/400-series-pci-4-0-bandwidth-bi...

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

#120
post #105

I'm really looking forward to this. But one issue with current AMD cpu is that you have to buy a desktop GPU even when you are not doing any kind of gaming and such. I know intel iGPU haven't been terribly good but for work they are good enough and is one less part and cheaper to boot. For same performance a Ryzen 3rd gen + gpu might still be cheaper but the price advantage gets reduced. I haven't really seen that me…

You could pick a Ryzen with "G", like the Ryzen 5 2400G, though... They have an integrated GPU.

They are limited to 4 cores. In the new lineup too, when G series comes out later, they'll be limited to 8 cores (one cliplet for CPU and one for GPU).
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