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US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021

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Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021

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This sounds amazing! When I first began traveling, I had to strategically time my time in the Schengen region to not overstay 90 days within a 180 day period. I ended up going to the Balkan region for a few months before circling back into the Schengen at the tail end.

This setup allows for 3-years multi-entry. That's insane! Well done, EU.

Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021

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post #10

The article mixes two seaparate issues: - EU is introducing ETIAS, an electronic authorisation system which is pretty much modeled after the US ESTA system (used by visa-free nationals). It will apply to all countries which currently enjoy the visa-free regime with the EU and that includes USA. So, technically it is not a visa, but your details will be pre-checked and it will cost €7 (compared to $14 for US ESTA). Ir…

The thing is EU is still not a country. It’s not as easy for a Bulgarian to go live in France and claim French citizenship compared to a Californian fully moving to Texas.

This is false.

Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021

#113

This sounds amazing! When I first began traveling, I had to strategically time my time in the Schengen region to not overstay 90 days within a 180 day period. I ended up going to the Balkan region for a few months before circling back into the Schengen at the tail end. This setup allows for 3-years multi-entry. That's insane! Well done, EU.

The 90 days within 180 days period restriction still applies. It's just that you will need a visa now and it will last 3 years whereas you didn't need one before.

Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021

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post #10

The article mixes two seaparate issues: - EU is introducing ETIAS, an electronic authorisation system which is pretty much modeled after the US ESTA system (used by visa-free nationals). It will apply to all countries which currently enjoy the visa-free regime with the EU and that includes USA. So, technically it is not a visa, but your details will be pre-checked and it will cost €7 (compared to $14 for US ESTA). Ir…

Border control should be based on facts not petty politics.

What problems does the US have with travelers from Croatia or Cyprus? Explain it and maybe they can fix it and we can move on.

Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021

#115
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>there should be no visa at all And why is that?

We need people to travel and get different perspectives more and not less. I too often see arguments in political discourse that something could never work, yet I've been to many countries where these things are normal. For example, I want all US citizens to experience a great pic transportation system so that we can elevate the discussion in the US about it. Likewise I want everyone to experience a Japanese city, so…

Keep in mind that not everyone wants others to experience their country. If everybody went to Bhutan, it’d lose everything that makes it unique. If a country imposed a visa policy on other countries, most of the time, they do it based on some degree of reason (although some are definitely petty bullshit reasons).

And visas aren’t even really a hindrance for Americans going to Europe or most countries. They’ll be stamped off pretty much guaranteed, unless you’ve got major criminal convictions or reason to be suspicious (like planning a 6 month vacation with <$1000 in the bank). The real problem is paying for flight tickets, hotels, and actually getting vacation time.

Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021

#116
post #10

The article mixes two seaparate issues: - EU is introducing ETIAS, an electronic authorisation system which is pretty much modeled after the US ESTA system (used by visa-free nationals). It will apply to all countries which currently enjoy the visa-free regime with the EU and that includes USA. So, technically it is not a visa, but your details will be pre-checked and it will cost €7 (compared to $14 for US ESTA). Ir…

Border control should be based on facts not petty politics. What problems does the US have with travelers from Croatia or Cyprus? Explain it and maybe they can fix it and we can move on.

I think you answered your question with your first statement.

Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021

#117
post #9

This is for an electronic travel authorization, which the US, Australia and Canada already require of all visitors. It's simple and takes minutes online, hardly a 'visa.'

Yes, the ESTA and now the US citizens have to do something similar to enter the EU. I hope they also need to pay for it when they just have a stopover in the EU just like us in the US. I am fully on board with this as a EU citizen

as a US citizen from a 'shithole' country, I fully support it, lets all US/EU citizens experience what we all had to. Fill in a ton of papers, prove that you're a human too and get rejected.

Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021

#118
post #98

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States have never had separate sovereignty in international affairs.

> States have never had separate sovereignty in international affairs. And yet their separate sovereignty, allegedly restricted to “domestic” affairs, is why the US, through it's court system, allows US states to ignore US international commitments (notably, the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations) in their execution of their criminal law.

No, that is not why. It's because the US has two policies, domestic and international, and the application of treaties on domestic law is up to the federal government to execute. If the Congress chooses not to do so, there isn't a domestic law broken and so the states aren't bound.

So actually, if they had separate sovereignty, the states would have to sign the treaties themselves and would potentially be more bound to them, not less.

Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021

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post #83
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If people from Hawaii were overstaying in Japan, the US wouldn't be fine with Japan requiring visas for residents of Hawaii. Part of the purpose of the EU is to present a united front when dealing with other countries. Collective bargaining doesn't work if you don't act collectively. >If US travelers are overstaying in any particular EU countries. The only way to do this would be to require Visas to the whole EU beca…

Hawaii isn’t a sovereign nation with its own foreign service.

It’s an analogy as Hawaii is one of the 50 United States. The EU Schengen zone is similar to the US as there is free travel between countries within the zone.

Re: US citizens will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2021

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post #100
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If people from Hawaii were overstaying in Japan, the US wouldn't be fine with Japan requiring visas for residents of Hawaii. Part of the purpose of the EU is to present a united front when dealing with other countries. Collective bargaining doesn't work if you don't act collectively. >If US travelers are overstaying in any particular EU countries. The only way to do this would be to require Visas to the whole EU beca…

In that case there should be no such thing as a Croatian passport or a Polish passport. Or Croatian citizenship (etc.). Feels like there’s a fair bit of eating cake and having it too going on here.

Replace “passport” by “driving license” and things are almost equivalent: a piece of paper that pins you down a particular plot of land.
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