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Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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Post by baroffoos »

colinthompson wrote: post #88
loeg wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely OP isn't working on all projects all the time, and could "archive" some in FLAC form?

My guess is that in terms of a time vs. money trade off, buying a new drive and shelving the old one is the preferred method of archiving. The maintenance required to convert all files to some compact format might be enough of a PITA (however minor), that it's simply more worth it to buy a new drive.

Would be good if the tools had an archive option that automatically saves all the files as flac and can decompress to wav again with a single button press.

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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Post by baroffoos »

dlevine wrote: post #22

I know that big disks are useful for a lot of people/applications. However, I topped out at 500GB about 10 years ago. That gives me plenty of headroom. Since then, I have gone from a 500GB HDD to a SSD, but my space usage hasn't really gone up. The largest disk I own is a 1TB disk in my Time Capsule (which I could probably stand to upgrade, but I don't feel like taking it apart). I think this is probably because I st…

Modern video games are reaching 100GB in size per game. I have been waiting for bigger hard drives so I can store raw blueray rips which are about 50GB each.

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Post by baroffoos »

pezdeath wrote: post #49
izzydata wrote: post #12

For general file storage spinning disk HDD are still better cost, but there is a decreasing need for general file storage for the average person. For most people one terabyte is more than enough and it may as well be an SSD that is also their boot drive. Personally I'd love to replace my multiple 2TB drives with 8TB drives if the price comes down a bit.

Games are the only reason most people will need more. Most new AAA games are approaching 100GB each. And on the extreme end Gears of War 4 for example takes up over 250 GB.

Datacenters as well. Peoples data storage needs have gone up only now we put all the data on someone elses computer.

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Post by jtl999 »

reitzensteinm wrote: post #52
sixothree wrote: post #38

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I always thought that at some point the price/gb lines would cross. I am starting to believe this will never actually happen.

It will. SSDs counter intuitively scale down in price much better than hard drives at small sizes; there's no cost advantage to making a HDD with less storage than a single platter, or about 1/5 to 1/8 (in the case of helium drives) of the largest on the market. Eventually, an SSD with cost parity with a low end HDD will be big enough, after which there's no reason for the low end consumer market not to switch over.…

A 1TB SSD this past Black Friday was at the lowest about $115/1TB. That's about the price a 1TB HDD was back in 2010.

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Post by baroffoos »

mkirklions wrote: post #20

Anyone have an opinion about Seagate? I had one of their HDD and it died on me within a year. Not sure if this was a 'one-off' or other people had issues with their quality. Similar issue with samsung on SSD.

I have had my seagate 3tb drive running since I think 2012

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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Post by baroffoos »

I just checked out the price of that 14tb seagate drive and you can get 2 of their 10tb drives for the same cost of 1 14tb drive. Who is buying this 14tb drive right now if it costs that much?

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Post by wpietri »

fabianhoward wrote: post #106
djsumdog wrote: post #40

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Yea I remember going up from a 3TB to 6TB, using the old one as a backup and climbing up that chain every 2~3 years .. 8TB, etc. Currently I have a 12TB for primary and a 10TB for backup. Once I go over 10TB I'll probably look at what's current available. It'd be nice to see 100TBs eventually. I honestly think a set of those could last for over a decade.

I'm curious as to why your backup drive is smaller the your primary. For most people the other way around would be desirable.

For me, at least, the main answer is that not everything I have is worth backing up.

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Post by Nadya »

baroffoos wrote: post #116

I just checked out the price of that 14tb seagate drive and you can get 2 of their 10tb drives for the same cost of 1 14tb drive. Who is buying this 14tb drive right now if it costs that much?

People who need mass storage and either have limited space or want to maximize the space they do have. A thirty-two drive rack full of 14TB drives is 448TB of storage space instead of 320TB (thirty-two 10TB drives). And if you only need 320TB of storage you only need a rack that holds twenty-three drives - so you might downsize to a twenty-four drive rack.

I updated a lot of my 4/6TB drives to 8TB drives for this reason: too much physical space was being taken up on my desk by having so many 4TB drives.

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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Post by PavlovsCat »

Paperweight wrote: post #71
randyrand wrote: post #64

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Why not use FLAC? It gets 50-70% compression and is lossless.

DAWs usually encode as WAVs for when you're working on stuff because it's faster. But it would be nice for them to losslessly compress your files down to FLAC when you're done and shut down the program! It would be interesting to have a media-friendly archive file format for the final tracks of completed projects that automatically compresses/decompresses WAVs as FLAC...and other raw data formats as their losslesss c…

> it would be nice for them to losslessly compress your files down to FLAC when you're done and shut down the program!

Renoise does that. With software synths and sample-based instruments, the biggest chunk for me is always the vocals.. and I would have to have a lot of takes to get over 100mb. Of course, my music isn't the music people who record a bunch of live instruments make, it's not a fair comparison, but still, for my uses it's fine, and it's super fast. I wish there was an option to bake VST into songs, I would love to be able to share full songs as "source" (obviously it would have to be songs only made with freeware VST, but art is all about limitations etc. blah blah :)

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Post by rb808 »

combatentropy wrote: post #2

From the article: "In a world where SSDs have become more and more common, one might ask what the point of even developing newer and bigger HDDs is." Solid state drives still cost about 10 times more per gigabyte. I'm just a web developer, but a spinning-disk drive looks 100 times more complicated to me to manufacture. I know at the beginning that hard drives would be cheaper, simply because SSDs were newer, and ther…

On a related note - are there any small nas devices that take m.2 size drives? Seems like a good product which I haven't seen.
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