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Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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Anyone have an opinion about Seagate? I had one of their HDD and it died on me within a year. Not sure if this was a 'one-off' or other people had issues with their quality. Similar issue with samsung on SSD.

Seagate is well known for quality issues. I usually have no more than one Seagate in a RAID and plan for it to fail first.

My understanding is the IronWolf drives are really good.

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post #22

I know that big disks are useful for a lot of people/applications. However, I topped out at 500GB about 10 years ago. That gives me plenty of headroom. Since then, I have gone from a 500GB HDD to a SSD, but my space usage hasn't really gone up. The largest disk I own is a 1TB disk in my Time Capsule (which I could probably stand to upgrade, but I don't feel like taking it apart). I think this is probably because I st…

Just from a camera perspective, RAW capture from digital cameras can eat up space over time. At ~60MiB per image on 24MP cameras and a usage rate of 2000 images each year, you consume ~120GiB of storage each year. Video and post-processing storage adds further.

Cameras increase in resolution, better sensors, ...

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

#33

Anyone have an opinion about Seagate? I had one of their HDD and it died on me within a year. Not sure if this was a 'one-off' or other people had issues with their quality. Similar issue with samsung on SSD.

I have had bad experiences in the past, maybe not on the scale of [1], but quite close. The newer drives are better (adjusted for age).

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHcHA5riKbc

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seagate is well known for quality issues. I usually have no more than one Seagate in a RAID and plan for it to fail first.

My understanding is the IronWolf drives are really good.

IronWolf is AFAIK the only non-helium non-SMR 8TB drive.

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

#35

From the article: "In a world where SSDs have become more and more common, one might ask what the point of even developing newer and bigger HDDs is." Solid state drives still cost about 10 times more per gigabyte. I'm just a web developer, but a spinning-disk drive looks 100 times more complicated to me to manufacture. I know at the beginning that hard drives would be cheaper, simply because SSDs were newer, and ther…

I agree with the other comments. I'd add that just because the end product can be easily seen to be a complex mechanical artifact, doesn't make it inherently more complex to manufacture than something solid state. A lot of complexity goes into making the solid state device too; it just happens out of sight in the fab.

It's (somewhat) the same situation as with EV and ICE automobiles. The engine and drivetrain in a modern ICE vehicle is extremely complex. Much more so at a macro level than EVs. But we're actually pretty good at building reliable complex mechanical systems. More things shift to solid state over time but it's a long process.

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

#36

From the article: "In a world where SSDs have become more and more common, one might ask what the point of even developing newer and bigger HDDs is." Solid state drives still cost about 10 times more per gigabyte. I'm just a web developer, but a spinning-disk drive looks 100 times more complicated to me to manufacture. I know at the beginning that hard drives would be cheaper, simply because SSDs were newer, and ther…

Don't forget the cheapest storage is actually tapes.

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

#37

From the article: "In a world where SSDs have become more and more common, one might ask what the point of even developing newer and bigger HDDs is." Solid state drives still cost about 10 times more per gigabyte. I'm just a web developer, but a spinning-disk drive looks 100 times more complicated to me to manufacture. I know at the beginning that hard drives would be cheaper, simply because SSDs were newer, and ther…

Big data also needs to be stored somewhere, especially all the environmental data, video data, and photographic data we are creating all the time with our smart phones and youtube uploads.

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

#38

From the article: "In a world where SSDs have become more and more common, one might ask what the point of even developing newer and bigger HDDs is." Solid state drives still cost about 10 times more per gigabyte. I'm just a web developer, but a spinning-disk drive looks 100 times more complicated to me to manufacture. I know at the beginning that hard drives would be cheaper, simply because SSDs were newer, and ther…

I always thought that at some point the price/gb lines would cross. I am starting to believe this will never actually happen.

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seagate is well known for quality issues. I usually have no more than one Seagate in a RAID and plan for it to fail first.

My understanding is the IronWolf drives are really good.

IMO what's important isn't getting good drives, but avoiding simultaneous drive failure. I usually do this by building RAIDs out of a mix of brands and manufacture dates.

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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post #5

I don't quite recall when it happened, but at some point my reaction to announcements like this changed from, "Yay, more space!" to "Good, the size I need will be even cheaper when I upgrade 2-3 years from now."

Yea I remember going up from a 3TB to 6TB, using the old one as a backup and climbing up that chain every 2~3 years .. 8TB, etc. Currently I have a 12TB for primary and a 10TB for backup. Once I go over 10TB I'll probably look at what's current available. It'd be nice to see 100TBs eventually. I honestly think a set of those could last for over a decade.
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