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YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators
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Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want an Internet with alternatives to Google who can compete, because Google isn’t allowed to automate QC. If a platform can’t control itself, it shouldn’t be allowed to automate the control incompetently and call it good, then hide behind algorithms.
Are you seriously proposing regulation of one specific private company just because you don't like the way they run their business? Man, I'm glad you're not in charge. Google is not a government service, and YouTube (forget about YouTube-As-You-Want-It) is not a constitutional right. Have you forgotten that you are talking about an advertising company? That's what Google is. Don't like the business decisions of a pri…
Are you seriously proposing regulation of one specific private company just because you don't like the way they run their business?
No, this could apply equally to all companies, FaceBook and Twitter for example, or Amazon and their counterfeits. If your platform is too big for you to manage in a way that complies with basic consumer protections, you either need to step up your controls, or shrink your platform.
Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. So the solution YouTube has isn't appropriate. They should invest in a better solution even if that involves having more humans in the loop for review/approval. That's the true cost of their business. They'd just like to portray it as the law being an ass rather than their solution being inadequate for the laws. It's a clear case of "Our machines aren't humans and we don't want to have to comply with laws th…
How would you ever manually review 400 hours of video per minute (likely much more by now). It's just impossible. And who is to say that the human reviewers would make no mistakes. It's not always a clear cut decision I'm guessing. So either you have an automated and overzealous ContentID system or you limit upload capabilities for smaller creators (which would be the death of the internet). Obviously the best soluti…
> or you limit upload capabilities for smaller creators (which would be the death of the internet)
Would it? I feel like it would actually spark innovation in the host-your-own space. Which is closer to the original vision of the internet than submitting your content to a third party host that pre-screens it for approval.
Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators
#114Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators
#115The best way to benefit from a pie isn't to turn the plate upside down but to make and take a cut for yourself. Afaik, this is just a way to reduce profitability of YouTube, which YouTube will be cunningly passing down to the creators and advertisers.
By reduce profitability, do you mean increase losses because they have literally never made money on it. Keep hammering them down and Google will eventually shut it down.
Sources please.
Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators
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The record and movie industry? No, Europe has a different industry lobbying these issues that Americans tend to be oblivious about: newspaper publishers. A lot of the regulation is lifted verbatim from laws newspaper publishers lobbied for in Germany. This is why the regulation deals with issues like citing news stories -- a direct result of newspaper publishers going after Google. The content filter however seems to…
I'm French and in France I can assure you that I mostly heard musicians being very outspoken in support of the law. That's the whole "exception culturelle française" for better or worse. France is very protectionist of its cultural industry. But you're right that newspaper definitely favor the law as well which is a problem for unbiased reporting.
Yeah, hence why I mentioned GEMA and its equivalents. But the dynamics are a fair bit different from the usual RIAA noise you hear about internationally.
Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators
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> their trigger-happy DMCA policies that aggressively favor major copyright holders So which is it? Do you think YouTube is too much in favour of DMCA or too against it? Perhaps mystifying and arbitrary is just the way it looks when this kind of law is applied at scale (with robots as prescribed in the law.)
The problem isn't DMCA. The problem is Content ID, which allows rights holders to take down other creators' content automatically. YouTube goes out of its way to grant rights holders a level of control that wouldn't be possible with a strict interpretation of the DMCA because an illegitimate DMCA takedown request would be a felony whereas an illegitimate Content ID claim goes unpunished. EDIT: Note however that Artic…
DMCA is imperfect, so it's inherently a source of certain problems - recently the takedown notice abuse on YT.
And YT made sure it covers its ass by trading off perfection against making the RIAA/MPAA/etc happy with Content-ID and with who knows what systems and features only available to those big rightsholders.
Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators
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And what exactly would a competing service do differently? The only thing protecting the internet as we know it is the fact that platforms are not responsible for what users post. That is changing and it's a terrible trend.
> And what exactly would a competing service do differently? Do what services should do? Review the content before it's publicly available to ensure it's not breaking laws. > That is changing and it's a terrible trend I feel the opposite. For far too long, internet companies have taken liberties of everything being 'opt out' instead of 'opt in'. This is another example of that.
> Do what services should do? Review the content before it's publicly available to ensure it's not breaking laws.
Yes, but how would they do this better than YouTube can? I just feel like it's better to deal with copyright after the fact. A big part of YouTube basically runs on fair use for example. Legislation like article 13 could hurt this doctrine.
> I feel the opposite. For far too long, internet companies have taken liberties of everything being 'opt out' instead of 'opt in'. This is another example of that.
But, it would affect primarily content creators of any kind. Well, the kind that isn't massive and can enter into sweeping deals with rights holders. This might not mean much to a lot of people. But the whole concept or commentary, reaction, memes, etc. and more broadly still, the internet in general relies on people being able to copy and repost and link stuff quickly and without fuss. You would basically change the internet to be even more corporate (i.e. favor big over small creators) than it is today.
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As written, that sounds like indecipherable garbage.
That's the intent. A lot of EU regulations are written in a way that could be interpreted in almost any way, making it impossible to be 100% compliant and leaving you at the mercy of politically-minded regulators.
First GDPR now this. Is the EU trying to become a new age China?
Re: YouTube CEO says EU regulation will be bad for creators
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Why? (Serious question - not trolling.)
It favors creators who produce many short and basicaly clickbait videos every few days. Instead of the insightful deep dives, or the critical responses to other creators' content.
Well yeah, because that's what the majority of viewers want.