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Millennials Are Causing the U.S. Divorce Rate to Plummet

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Re: Millennials Are Causing the U.S. Divorce Rate to Plummet

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Post by Regardsyjc »

nimbius wrote: post #38

speaking as a millennial there is a big reason Marriage is overtaking divorce. Health insurance. Most of us dont have jobs that afford us competent healthcare. Seriously, thank the gig economy. Affordable Care Act providers either do not exist in some states or are overpriced/worthless for what they do cover. There are still roughly 25 states that have not expanded medicare either. Getting married is a quick and simp…

As a fledgling entrepreneur, health insurance is one of the major pros of marriage for me. One of my Amazon seller colleagues was recently diagnosed with cancer and he's still in his 20s. It's heartbreaking.

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Post by dleslie »

itchyouch wrote: post #106
dleslie wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aye, I have a handful of American friends who have married another friend simply to access/combine one-another's health benefits. That doesn't seem to happen in Canada...

Wouldnt the divorce rate go higher then? Since its out of convenience/benefits, once one finds a partner, they divorce and remarry.

Only if you think you need to divorce to enter into another relationship. I have friends who live with new partners but are married to someone else altogether; they see the process of getting divorced as an unnecessary and expensive hassle.

Really, how much of our social rituals are thus so encumbered to the primary benefit of bureaucrats and lawyers?

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Post by sov »

thedaemon wrote: post #110
philwelch wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do married people have more money, or do more financially secure people get married?

It's cheaper to live with someone and split bills than live alone and pay all of the bills by yourself. So yes, married people have more money in general.

That's both a fact and not an answer to the question he's asking. For example, unmarried people can live together and split the bills. The above poster isn't asking if it's cheaper to live together with someone--they're asking if selection bias causes it to look that way. That is, whether or not there's sufficient distinction between single folk, long-term non-married split-the-bills relationships, and marriage.

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

itchyouch wrote: post #106
dleslie wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aye, I have a handful of American friends who have married another friend simply to access/combine one-another's health benefits. That doesn't seem to happen in Canada...

Wouldnt the divorce rate go higher then? Since its out of convenience/benefits, once one finds a partner, they divorce and remarry.

I have no facts, but I'd guess it would not. Financial dependence keeps people in bad marriages - and marrying for health care creates a sort of financial dependence.

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Post by detaro »

thedaemon wrote: post #110
philwelch wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do married people have more money, or do more financially secure people get married?

It's cheaper to live with someone and split bills than live alone and pay all of the bills by yourself. So yes, married people have more money in general.

Many people still are living together and splitting bills without being married, so it's not all that relevant to the question.

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Post by blattimwind »

kaitai wrote: post #77
JadeNB wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Women that marry in their late 20s and have kids in their 30s don't really have great dating prospects when they're fast approaching 40 and have a kid. Is there any need to gender that statement? It seems just as true of men as of women. With the possible exception of differing child-support rates in the sexes (for which I have not bothered to gather any data), probably even the same is true of: > Men that marry in…

Child support payments are not the cause of women's financial woes after divorce, but you can absolutely look at the same general sentence: "Women that marry in their late 20s and have kids in their 30s don't like the idea of living in a crappy apartment, driving a 15yo Civic and eating rice and beans well into their 50s because they're getting bent over for" being women who had kids, often put their careers on the b…

> often put their careers on the back burner, often were not aware of financial decision-making within the marriage, & got divorced without the ability to make as much money.

It's interesting how some paint this picture of mothers who decided to be homemakers as women who are just too dumb to care the correct amount about climbing the career lader.

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Post by sakopov »

52-6F-62 wrote: post #92
odyssey7 wrote: post #75

Millennials are forced to be more careful, because they're climbing a difficult and important ladder into financial security. Most people I know who aren't looking to marry are just very aware that this is not the right time for them, neither finically nor in relation to achieving their professional goals.

I think about this from time-to-time. My partner and I know we couldn't afford children now, though she's constantly ..."noticing the clock ticking". I'd like children some day. But what makes me snicker is it sounds exactly like the beginning of Idiocracy.

That movie got a heck of a lot right. Still amusingly scary at times.

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Post by mrrsm »

thedaemon wrote: post #110
philwelch wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do married people have more money, or do more financially secure people get married?

It's cheaper to live with someone and split bills than live alone and pay all of the bills by yourself. So yes, married people have more money in general.

You don't have to be married to live with someone else. That is why many people get a roommate, you split the bills and save more money.

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

curryst wrote: post #96
combatentropy wrote: post #87

"Many poorer and less educated Americans are opting not to get married at all. . . . Marriage is becoming a more durable, but far more exclusive, institution." How is it exclusive if it is by choice?

It's not entirely by choice. Getting married can have a significant impact on the benefits you are eligible to receive. Anecdotally, I knew a woman who lived with her boyfriend and children in section 8 housing through benefits she received for being low income. The boyfriend worked, but his income was not counted as household income because they weren't married. They eventually got married, and between his income an…

I think this is quite common. Public benefits are a strange thing and have really odd loopholes at times.

For example: I had a friend that lived with her boyfriend and they had a child. The state wanted to take child support from his check to give to her for the child even though they lived at the same address.

I worked with a woman that kept below a certain amount of hours per week while working. This was simply because working any more meant that her benefits were cut so much she couldn't survive. The cut was more than the money she earned from working.

I'm guessing I've known a few people that weren't married for similar reasons as well, I just cannot think of a concrete example.

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Post by rayiner »

By this and other accounts, millennials appear to be a reaction to the excesses of the baby boomers. For example, millennials are more prudish than their parents,[1] more likely to identify as conservative than their parents were at the same age.[2]

[1] http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-millennials-...

[2] https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/07/health/millennials-conservati...

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