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Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by blackflame7000 »

slantyyz wrote: post #29
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Plex actively courted the Roku's and the Amazon's of the world while Kodi was content to just make great, free software. To boot, Plex began as a fork of XBMC (Kodi's name at the time). Which, given Kodi's GPLv2 license, probably puts Plex out of compliance.

>> Plex began as a fork of XBMC (Kodi's name at the time). Ah, XBMC... I still have an original Xbox that I modded to specifically run XBMC collecting dust in my spare room. It definitely has come a long way.

Those were the days. I discovered my passion for computers by modding that console and unlocking its hidden potential. Modern day magic.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by blackflame7000 »

phjesusthatguy3 wrote: post #34
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Plex actively courted the Roku's and the Amazon's of the world while Kodi was content to just make great, free software. To boot, Plex began as a fork of XBMC (Kodi's name at the time). Which, given Kodi's GPLv2 license, probably puts Plex out of compliance.

Plex began by pirating XBMC, and now has the gumption to charge me $5 a month to share my pirated media with the internet at large.

Plex took an existing project available for use under license and modified it into a proprietary branch. If you have ever studied the history of Unix you will realize that this is extremely common. If you take an existing invention and improve it, its a new invention.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by blackflame7000 »

solarkraft wrote: post #106
Mindless2112 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google omitting from auto-complete isn't relevant. I disagree. They wanted legal control of their name, yet now they have it and Google considers it a piracy search term. Microsoft speculation aside, they didn't gain anything because pirate-box makers don't care about legal action to begin with.

I don't know if they could somehow enforce autocompletion legally, but they probably could've prevented the reason Google is dropping them: With legal control of the name they could have sued people selling piracy boxes. A headache, yes, but it seems that that was exactly why they did change the name (Though it also improves recognizability, imo)

Kodi wasn't able to run Kodi18 on the Xbox One unless they rebranded. Furthermore, while they technically have more control over their trademark now, they dabble in the business of piracy so good luck with enforcing that on the limited budget they have. Frankly, I think they were sick of being under the Xbox shadow as it was holding back their branding

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by joshstrange »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #16
starsinspace wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Equally sad as the existence of the terrible Kodi piracy boxes is that the legitimate set top box/"smart TV" industry is completely ignoring it. I'm not aware of any TV manufacturer building Kodi into their product, instead they invent their own junk, which is usually much worse. Does anyone know why the consumer electronics industry is ignoring Kodi?

Because Plex actively courted the Roku's and the Amazon's of the world while Kodi was content to just make great, free software. To boot, Plex began as a fork of XBMC (Kodi's name at the time). Which, given Kodi's GPLv2 license, probably puts Plex out of compliance.

Plex Home Theater (a client) was/is a fork of XBMC. I'm not aware of the server having it's roots in XBMC but I could be wrong.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by MayeulC »

slantyyz wrote: post #29
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Plex actively courted the Roku's and the Amazon's of the world while Kodi was content to just make great, free software. To boot, Plex began as a fork of XBMC (Kodi's name at the time). Which, given Kodi's GPLv2 license, probably puts Plex out of compliance.

>> Plex began as a fork of XBMC (Kodi's name at the time). Ah, XBMC... I still have an original Xbox that I modded to specifically run XBMC collecting dust in my spare room. It definitely has come a long way.

The original Xbox was way ahead of the other media centers I knew of at the time (2004-2010,roughly): * CD/DVD player * upgradeable HDD * 1080i output (though I mostly used RCA connectors, and I don't think you can decode 720p+ with it) * quite cheap compared to a fully fledged computer * trough XBMC, integrated games library management, with native and emulated titles * and of course, the plethora of add-ons and protocols Kodi supports to this day

And though it was big and heavy, it had an integrated PSU.

This was before raspberry pi was a thing, mind you. The alternatives were expensive (~€200) hard disk enclosures that couldn't do a fourth of this. I would have kept on using if it wasn't for its inability to cope with HD formats, and wouldn't be surprised to learn that it helped to promote the console quite a bit.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by ouid »

solarkraft wrote: post #107
m0ngr31 wrote: post #23

In a similar vein, Amazon refused to publish an Alexa skill I wrote to control Kodi (basically a voice remote). They cited piracy as the only reason. When I'd press them on why they allowed one for Plex since they are both just video players, they would just refuse to acknowledge the question and deny me again. It's their right to do so, but it's stupid and defies logic.

Should it be their right? They are becoming so prevalent that perhaps they should be regulated like infrastructure ...

I remember when computers were programmable :(.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by dang »

notafxn wrote: post #74
starsinspace wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Equally sad as the existence of the terrible Kodi piracy boxes is that the legitimate set top box/"smart TV" industry is completely ignoring it. I'm not aware of any TV manufacturer building Kodi into their product, instead they invent their own junk, which is usually much worse. Does anyone know why the consumer electronics industry is ignoring Kodi?

Because the GPL is cancer. It's bad, and it spreads and ruins everything it touches.

Could you please not post unsubstantive comments to HN?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by slantyyz »

MayeulC wrote: post #116
slantyyz wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Plex began as a fork of XBMC (Kodi's name at the time). Ah, XBMC... I still have an original Xbox that I modded to specifically run XBMC collecting dust in my spare room. It definitely has come a long way.

The original Xbox was way ahead of the other media centers I knew of at the time (2004-2010,roughly): * CD/DVD player * upgradeable HDD * 1080i output (though I mostly used RCA connectors, and I don't think you can decode 720p+ with it) * quite cheap compared to a fully fledged computer * trough XBMC, integrated games library management, with native and emulated titles * and of course, the plethora of add-ons and pro…

> And though it was big and heavy, it had an integrated PSU.

It was noisy as hell (from the fan) too.

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