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Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by cryptoz »

TomMckenny wrote: post #10

How is it that software makers are culpable when their product us used to commit a crime but not gun manufactures? Is it that copyright violation is such a "heinous" crime that special rules apply?

Not sure what your point is here. Google went to-the-max apeshit insane in their censoring/blocking of gun-related product searches recently, to the point that Google Products search wouldn't return anything labelled with the color burgundy. Surely Google thinks gun manufacturers are so intensely bad as to have 'punished' them via search controls Far, far more than they have here with Kodi.

Aside: Neither of these seems like useful exercises for Google.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by alexbeloi »

TomMckenny wrote: post #10

How is it that software makers are culpable when their product us used to commit a crime but not gun manufactures? Is it that copyright violation is such a "heinous" crime that special rules apply?

Unlike victims of gun crimes, the victims of copyright violation have the money and lobbying power to effect change.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by starsinspace »

eco wrote: post #8

I feel so bad for the Kodi project. They've done amazing work over the years and their reputation is being destroyed so quickly by people taking their open source work, adding a bunch of piracy addons, and selling a set top box. I have no idea what they can do to combat this. I don't see how they can distance themselves from this any more than they have.

Equally sad as the existence of the terrible Kodi piracy boxes is that the legitimate set top box/"smart TV" industry is completely ignoring it. I'm not aware of any TV manufacturer building Kodi into their product, instead they invent their own junk, which is usually much worse.

Does anyone know why the consumer electronics industry is ignoring Kodi?

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by untog »

starsinspace wrote: post #13
eco wrote: post #8

I feel so bad for the Kodi project. They've done amazing work over the years and their reputation is being destroyed so quickly by people taking their open source work, adding a bunch of piracy addons, and selling a set top box. I have no idea what they can do to combat this. I don't see how they can distance themselves from this any more than they have.

Equally sad as the existence of the terrible Kodi piracy boxes is that the legitimate set top box/"smart TV" industry is completely ignoring it. I'm not aware of any TV manufacturer building Kodi into their product, instead they invent their own junk, which is usually much worse. Does anyone know why the consumer electronics industry is ignoring Kodi?

> Does anyone know why the consumer electronics industry is ignoring Kodi?

I really don't think the audience for Kodi is that big. It requires you to have DRM-less, local copies of any TV or movie you want to watch, and how many people - legally - have that? Not many. I know because I'm one of those people, and use Plex, despite its faults.

Also, last I used Kodi it was one (very big) codebase. Plex is split out into server components and client apps, which is essential for Smart TV usage. You're never going to get a full instance of Kodi running on a Roku box, you'll need some kind of client that connects to a remote server holding all your videos. There's nothing stopping the Kodi team from making that Roku app, incidentally.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

starsinspace wrote: post #13
eco wrote: post #8

I feel so bad for the Kodi project. They've done amazing work over the years and their reputation is being destroyed so quickly by people taking their open source work, adding a bunch of piracy addons, and selling a set top box. I have no idea what they can do to combat this. I don't see how they can distance themselves from this any more than they have.

Equally sad as the existence of the terrible Kodi piracy boxes is that the legitimate set top box/"smart TV" industry is completely ignoring it. I'm not aware of any TV manufacturer building Kodi into their product, instead they invent their own junk, which is usually much worse. Does anyone know why the consumer electronics industry is ignoring Kodi?

Because Plex actively courted the Roku's and the Amazon's of the world while Kodi was content to just make great, free software.

To boot, Plex began as a fork of XBMC (Kodi's name at the time). Which, given Kodi's GPLv2 license, probably puts Plex out of compliance.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by BuckRogers »

Google's talking about piracy, everyone else is talking about privacy.

Google can do whatever they want to please their masters within the industry on the piracy front. I moved to DuckDuckGo years ago. If I want to check Google results I get them through the Startpage bang.

Google & Facebook belong in the same category of no-go, invasive privacy offenders. Which is piracy in my book. Hopefully their next preventative measure in that regard is to remove google.com.

Re: Google Adds 'Kodi' to Autocomplete Piracy Filter

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Post by TomMckenny »

cryptoz wrote: post #11
TomMckenny wrote: post #10

How is it that software makers are culpable when their product us used to commit a crime but not gun manufactures? Is it that copyright violation is such a "heinous" crime that special rules apply?

Not sure what your point is here. Google went to-the-max apeshit insane in their censoring/blocking of gun-related product searches recently, to the point that Google Products search wouldn't return anything labelled with the color burgundy. Surely Google thinks gun manufacturers are so intensely bad as to have 'punished' them via search controls Far, far more than they have here with Kodi. Aside: Neither of these se…

"armalite" auto completes and even helpfully suggest the AR15, the exact weapon used in all the most spectacular massacres.

I'm not suggesting Google interfere with either. I'm suggesting copyright forces have an unreasonable amount of clout, much of it invisible. More even than a mass movement against school massacres.

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