Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

Post by aidenn0 » Fri, Jan 26, 2018, 8:56 PM UTC

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #108

bad_user wrote: post #60

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Your comment is incredibly mean. Mozilla isn't competing with other "charities", they are competing with Google, Apple and Microsoft, the world's largest corporations. The Mozilla Foundation might be a not-for-profit corporation, but they have the same constraints as normal businesses ... they have to secure reliable sources of funding, they have to preserve their resources, they have to be smart about investments, t…

Perhaps that's the problem. Why are they "competing". Surely the facts of being a charitable organisation should make their focus working for the charitable aims rather than competing with anyone. >The current Thunderbird is terrible. // What cross-platform desktop clients are better [I note MailMate is Mac only]. I use a mix of webmail (Outlook, Horde on private server), and Thunderbird (connecting to IMAP accounts)…

Post by pbhjpbhj » Fri, Jan 26, 2018, 9:03 PM UTC

tialaramex wrote: post #73

jordigh wrote: post #32

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Is it a charity? It's the Mozilla Foundation and the Mozilla Corporation. Despite some explanations I've received, I've never quite understood how the money flows there. I suppose I could look up their financial statements, but my understanding is that if you donate money to Mozilla, it won't be directly used for developing software.

A charity can't function like a normal business. Income to the charity must be donations, and it's OK to give something of low value back but you can't just "sell" stuff and make money. Hence, "Donate $250 and get this T-shirt". But what you can do is have a _for profit_ company that makes T-shirts and sells them for $10, and then a charity which _owns_ the for-profit company and receives all of the profits as a dona…

Post by pbhjpbhj » Fri, Jan 26, 2018, 9:11 PM UTC

theparanoid wrote: post #91

aniket_ray wrote: post #13

>The successful applicant will be hired as freelancer (independent contractor) through the Mozilla Foundation’s third-party service Upwork (www.upwork.com). Not knowing much about Mozilla, is this the norm there?

It's a way to be cheap. And honestly hiring through Upwork is a terrible idea.

Post by pbhjpbhj » Fri, Jan 26, 2018, 9:16 PM UTC

davehtaylor wrote: post #29

ronnier wrote: post #12

This is good news to hear. I use Thunderbird daily and it's not a pleasant experience.

It really needs to have the ability to add arbitrary numbers of physical addresses, email addresses, and phone numbers to a contact in the address book, as well as give each field an arbitrary name. Every other address book on the planet allows this. The fact that it can't makes it unusable for me. It would also be nice to have a proper three vertical pane view. The way it currently works is horrendous.

Post by Ajedi32 » Fri, Jan 26, 2018, 9:19 PM UTC

ttul wrote: post #112

IMHO Mozilla is missing out majorly by constraining themselves to the development of open source software, rather than services. With everything moving to the cloud, why doesn’t Mozilla build an awesome email cloud to compete with google but with perhaps better privacy and encryption features? They could charge for this to recover operating costs and remain a “non profit”.