Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it a good enough reason though? That would depend on the likelihood of losing your job by refusing, the ease of finding a different job, the seriousness of the unethical request, and the likelihood of getting caught.
If losing your job over something unethical is wrong, I don't want to be right. I would never be able to trust my employer again either way.
VW engineer sentenced to 40-month prison term in diesel case
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
He moved to the US specifically to lie to federal authorities. Lowly?
Who was the boss who suggested this be done?
Re: VW engineer sentenced to 40-month prison term in diesel case
#113Executives need to be punished - not just lowly engineers who followed orders under the duress of losing employment
Ethics is a big deal in many engineering disciplines, and breaking those ethical codes can cost your your license in addition to facing legal consequences.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
If losing your job over something unethical is wrong, I don't want to be right. I would never be able to trust my employer again either way.
Millions of people in the US alone don’t have the privilege to be that principled.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it a good enough reason though? That would depend on the likelihood of losing your job by refusing, the ease of finding a different job, the seriousness of the unethical request, and the likelihood of getting caught.
What's good enough is always going to be an individual decision, but it's better to be able to reference a concrete expectation of jail time.
Re: VW engineer sentenced to 40-month prison term in diesel case
#116Executives need to be punished - not just lowly engineers who followed orders under the duress of losing employment
Other executives are charged too.
Re: VW engineer sentenced to 40-month prison term in diesel case
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Millions of people in the US alone don’t have the privilege to be that principled.
So? It sucks to be in such a bind, but nothing says life is always easy or fair. The best you can do is to do the right thing and hope things are better at the next firm.
Re: VW engineer sentenced to 40-month prison term in diesel case
#118Executives need to be punished - not just lowly engineers who followed orders under the duress of losing employment
He was an engineering _manager_. His official job title was "Leader of Diesel Competence." Let's not pretend he was all that "lowly."
Re: VW engineer sentenced to 40-month prison term in diesel case
#119Fantastic precedent. When your boss tells you to do something unethical and possibly illegal, you now have a great reason to say no.
It is likely he will earn a good amount of money for having accepted to be the scape goat instead of VW.
Re: VW engineer sentenced to 40-month prison term in diesel case
#120Fantastic precedent. When your boss tells you to do something unethical and possibly illegal, you now have a great reason to say no.
> Fantastic precedent. That engineers will be thrown in jail while CEOs will walk away scot-free? Yeah. Fantastic.