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Re: Identify Plants with an App

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You mean college students?

College students are in fact real humans....

> College students are in fact real humans....

That is mostly true. The existence of animals with diplomas[1] is the exception to the rule.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_with_fraudulen...

Re: Identify Plants with an App

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post #69

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College students are in fact real humans....

> College students are in fact real humans.... That is mostly true. The existence of animals with diplomas[1] is the exception to the rule. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_with_fraudulen...

But having a diploma doesn't necessaraly implies the animal studied in college. So your argument is broken.

Re: Identify Plants with an App

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When can we get this for identifying plants/animals/rocks/fungus/etc in the wild? Would love this on a phone when hiking.

For fungus you could try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pingou.cha... https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/champignouf/id1227854971 I made it as an experiment, results vary and can be awfully wrong but it's funny to see the confusions the neural network can make. Funny until somebody eat a deadly mushroom because of me, I guess. I already put plenty of warnings, so fingers crossed, but it's hard to be s…

This is an interesting problem that almost all guide book authors have to contend with, bringing knowledge of a topic may expose people to risk, but I think it's maybe a false conclusion.

It's a given all guides have false information, it then begs the question are guides worse than no guides? I think this can be easily answered more information is better.

You can give people information but you can't understand it for them.

kudos for making the app :)

What do you think your app would identify this as? Carpet mushroom? http://imgur.com/a/Rqc64

Re: Identify Plants with an App

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I would love to hear the details of what your process is on developing that. I am not sure I even know enough to ask the right questions on this. But what tools, languages, computing resources, etc do you use?

This [1] is a good start. You'll probably feel like you're drinking from the firehose though. [1: https://www.tensorflow.org/tutorials/image_recognition ]

I think it'd have to allow users to submit images for the first few years, so that it can build up the sample set.

Re: Identify Plants with an App

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Not an expert -- would this be a result of training data doing a much better job isolating the subject vs a real world photo that may have other plants in the scene? Not that this is a solution in all cases, but is it possible your results would have improved with better real world pictures?

Likely but the whole point of 'AI' is that it should be able to identify flowers that don't look like what it's seen before. If not, it's just a huge lookup table that's like a memory repository. This is, of course, a critical challenge in data science and is definitely not a trivial one to solve.

In some cases these are the goals, but dharma1 said the goal was to identify plant disease. If you can improve your results by taking better pictures then it becomes a tradeoff between training someone to take pictures and training someone to identify plant disease.

I think we have a tendency to treat AI as a silver bullet when we should be treating it as a tool we can use to help augment what we're already doing.

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