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Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”

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Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”

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That probably means that it's not rose gold aluminium unibody.

...or also because it has a removable battery, a trackpoint and multimedia keys, video and ethernet ports and a docking adapter, and venting to run with the cover closed without overheating.

So it IS actually a machine for professional use, not just to draw some attention at coffee shop.

Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”

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4k at native (unless you're using a single, >30 inch display) is too small. I use two 4k, 28 inch monitors and everything is too small at native resolution. I ran in to a lot of issues doing the xrandr downscaling (my two displays would overlap), so I've just been using Windows partition since this is my gaming PC. My linux partition is Arch, I hope Gnome supports easy fractional scaling soon. Something similar to th…

4K native with the scaling factor cranked up to match.

Which is how I run Sway on my laptop --- thank you!

Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”

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post #99

If you are reading this: I installed Fedora recently because I wanted to try it and I found the partitioning process to be absurdly complicated, compared to that of Debian or Ubuntu (ubiquity). I have several partitions of several operating systems in this disk and I was hesitant to continue because it wasn't very clear what the partitioner was about to do with my disk. Unfortunately that was months ago so I can't re…

The partitioner would be absolutely fine were the system i was using intended to be a single OS machine. but mine isn't. My issues with it are from a HCI perspective; - the Done button is context sensitive which is rubbish. - Select Automatically Configure Partitioning and it will go back to the Installation summary - Select "I Will configure Partitioning" it will go into the partitioner. - There is no Cancel button…

I agree with all these criticisms. The anaconda installer, particularly the partitioning interface, is not at all intuitive. The first time I installed Fedora alongside an existing OS I thought it was really likely something would get messed up.

Debian's installer is excellent, in my experience.

Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”

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For points one and two, have you tried Thunderbird with the Lightning extension? Unfortunately I think it's still the best we've got in terms of fully-featured email clients on Linux.

Yes, but unfortunately I can't stomach how bad Thunderbird and Lightning look.

And yet you're considering Mutt? Thunderbird is easily the best mail client out there. And while beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it certainly isn't ugly by any standard that I'm aware of.

Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”

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This is incredible. I had written a comment on the original thread on why I had moved to fedora after 14 years of using Ubuntu and this post confirms that I made the right choice. For some unkNown reason, Fedora is considered "bleeding edge" and unstable..While Ubuntu is considered mainstream. The truth is that fedora is probably the most polished Linux distribution out there right now..Including a brilliant UI exper…

"For some unkNown reason, Fedora is considered "bleeding edge" and unstable..While Ubuntu is considered mainstream. The truth is that fedora is probably the most polished Linux distribution out there right now..Including a brilliant UI experience. "

I agree that Fedora does look very nice these days, but if they used to be bleeding edge then it's unsurprising that people still think this way since it's always hard to fix a bad reputation. First impressions count.

Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”

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This is incredible. I had written a comment on the original thread on why I had moved to fedora after 14 years of using Ubuntu and this post confirms that I made the right choice. For some unkNown reason, Fedora is considered "bleeding edge" and unstable..While Ubuntu is considered mainstream. The truth is that fedora is probably the most polished Linux distribution out there right now..Including a brilliant UI exper…

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Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”

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This is incredible. I had written a comment on the original thread on why I had moved to fedora after 14 years of using Ubuntu and this post confirms that I made the right choice. For some unkNown reason, Fedora is considered "bleeding edge" and unstable..While Ubuntu is considered mainstream. The truth is that fedora is probably the most polished Linux distribution out there right now..Including a brilliant UI exper…

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Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”

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The biggest grouse I have with most linux desktops I have is the font rendering. I understand that it is to do with the patents on cleartype etc, but its been so many years with this problem

I really have the opposite impression. I don't have any experience with macOS, but font rendering is So Much Better on linux than on Windows, even without freetype-freeworld.

Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”

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My advice: Instead of supporting a bunch of hardware poorly make one laptop like the macbook pro with: * 2 ram slots * 2 M.2 SSD slots * a decent kb * a decent touchpad * a decent screen * discrete graphics * good battery management (you can do this because it's only one) * thunderbolt 3 * at least 3 usb ports * no dvd * ONE TRRS audio port * ethernet * HDMI for legacy reasons forget about * thinnest * lightest * or…

> discrete graphics Who needs this? It is the one thing I tell people to stay away from when they're shopping for hardware. If you can get by with integrated graphics, do it. It saves energy and a whole lot of frustration. Stick with upstreamed drivers only if you want to keep your sanity.

Not all, but a lot of ppl use the GPU for games, 3d modelling , machine learning or encoding vids. Enough that adding the chip removes a lot of complaints.

Also, historically Intel 3d drivers haven't been great.

If you work on the drivers (again you can because you only have to support one config) you can switch bt the two and get pretty good batt usage.

Finally, this is one of the big complaints many mac users have.

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My biggest gripe with Fedora is Gnome. Modern Gnome has the worst (out of the box) window management I've ever encountered. Its default alt-tab behaviour is insane (you have to use alt-tab + arrow keys to navigate multiple terminal instances because it automagically groups things in an unusable manner). Virtual Desktops used to better, now they're more basic and less versatile. When my touchpad is disabled, Gnome somehow thinks this is a mistake and enables it against my will, with no option to disable it.

Yes, there are workarounds for all these issues. My favourite workaround is installing awesomewm and refusing to touch Gnome.

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