Gnome3 devs never asked for feedback. Gnome3 devs never cared.
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Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”
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Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reduced-resolution thing has been a trick for ages, I just refused to use the 4k screen I paid a premium for at half res with horrid (seriously, horrid complete with artifacts and fuzz, I even patched xrandr to disable bi-cubic filtering trying to make it ok and still couldn't stand it) looking text aliasing. I'm impressed you'd call that "pretty much perfect and comparable (if not better) to macOS with a recent…
I think you misunderstood the scaling part. I'm scaling down from 4k to 1080p for my old monitors. The 4k screen is at its native resolution. Anything else would be sinful :)
4k at native (unless you're using a single, >30 inch display) is too small. I use two 4k, 28 inch monitors and everything is too small at native resolution.
I ran in to a lot of issues doing the xrandr downscaling (my two displays would overlap), so I've just been using Windows partition since this is my gaming PC. My linux partition is Arch, I hope Gnome supports easy fractional scaling soon. Something similar to the display scaling menu on Mac OS would be really nice.
Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”
#43Nice if Bastien could fix this bug:
Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the advantage of just using a little bar on the screen to search for what you want to launch, or close, or switch to? Because when I'm on windows 7 and looking for what I want to switch to on the start bar, i'm definitely not using the rest of the screen for anything. I'm looking for the right little icon to click. Tell me why it's the "Right Way".
For one, you can look between the start menu and and an open window. More than once I've need to run some obscure command or some program I didn't even know was installed, and I can just glance over to my documentation to make sure I've got it right. My eyes have muscles that allow me to move them where required. Most people do. They don't need the entire desktop blanked out for a single UI element that might take up…
When the "windows" key (for me the "command" key -- I use a Mac BT keyboard), the visible windows are shrunk (but readable) and the I start to type. I can still read the window contents (1920x1080 11" display, 10 point touch). The desktop is not blanked out. On that selection screen, I have fast-start icons, and the desktop selector. Yes, it is "different" but I find it more usable than either Windows or Mac.
Of course, that may be due to familiarity. My primary platform is a mobile device, but I also use Gnome 3 (Fedora) on desktops. We use Mate on RHEL 7 on our larger display configurations (4x4K monitor in a 2x2 grid and 3x4K in horizontal configurations). But, on those configurations, we lock down and don't offer start menus to the end-user at all (kiosk style application).
I do like Gnome 3 for general use, though.
Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”
#45I've tried running newer CentOS and Fedora GNOME environments but they always feel so much slower than Xfce or unity. When I open ps it shows gnome-shell constantly using 10% cpu and 20-30% memory. Opening menus and switching desktops is such a pain with all the delay. I found this true with Virtual Machines as well.
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#46I'm using a 4k screen and a HiDPI thinkpad (T460p) for my workstation and it works amazingly well even today. Was a wild ride since Skylake + 4k + docking station became stable only recently with Linux 4.9, but scaling always worked. Here's what it takes: Xft DPI and hinting settings (font rendering): # .Xresources Xft.dpi: 144 Xft.hinting: 1 Xft.hintstyle: hintslight Xft.antialias: 1 Xcursor.size: 48 Xcursor.theme:…
This is why I won't suggest anyone ever use Linux as a desktop. The level of technical details and steps needed just to get hardware you already own to work... It's like buying a luxury car and then having to assemble the thing.
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#47Don't get me wrong, warts regarding high DPIs have existed for far too long and definitely need some love, but I'm a bit sadder the few complaints I see about design direction were not taken on board. Running what appears to be a touch UI (definition: very few buttons, those that exist are large, lots of dead space, information density very low) with a mouse feels shockingly unproductive, and at least personally, con…
You can reduce the size of the launcher and icons. And have the launcher hidden until you mouse to a corner.
Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”
#48If anyone's interested in trying Fedora I'd suggest checking out Korora, it bundles the Fedora base with nice themes and some essential packages/repositories that Fedora refuses to bundle based on their free software guidelines (like VLC) and some more sensible defaults (like Firefox as default browser instead of Epiphany). https://kororaproject.org/
Nice. I see it has Cinnamon, Mate, XFCE, Gnome and KDE flavours just like *ubuntu.
Re: Fedora dev: “HN feedback on what they want from their Desktop – We got it”
#49I've tried running newer CentOS and Fedora GNOME environments but they always feel so much slower than Xfce or unity. When I open ps it shows gnome-shell constantly using 10% cpu and 20-30% memory. Opening menus and switching desktops is such a pain with all the delay. I found this true with Virtual Machines as well.
I have also experienced memory issues. With the weather extension, gnome-shell goes from 150mb to 2GB in a week. Without extensions it still goes from 150mb to 400mb in a week, but it is much more manageable.
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#50The biggest grouse I have with most linux desktops I have is the font rendering. I understand that it is to do with the patents on cleartype etc, but its been so many years with this problem