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Re: Ethereum price goes up nearly 50 percent in under a week

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The consensus algorithm of both is very unlike the other. IOTA has something like "Monte Carlo Random Walk for Tip Selection by most Proof-of-Work" while Byteball has 12 trusted witnesses to stamp and order transactions as they see them, stamp only when satisfying consensus rules, a Main Chain can then be built from all possible transaction histories (branches). No proof-of-work aside from signatures.

Hmm. How are the trusted witnesses selected? Is it the same 12 for the whole network?

Great questions.

Today all witnesses are run by main developer. A hub on the Byteball network can push witnesses, if users trust a particular hub they can check a box to pull the witness list, this is just user-friendliness.

The witnesses are supposed to be selected by humans by talking, like a popularity contest. There is no automatic protocol-selection process aside from described below.

Each user/transaction is allowed 1 mutation in the 12 list, so technically there can be more witnesses than 12 in the network, but only 12 selected in each transaction.

Then, when enough transactions have replaced same witness with a new one, the stability point, ie best parent, can be advanced and next witness can be replaced. See the whitepaper for more details on this advancing of "best parent" in the Main Chain. Like a snowball.

The process is user-driven, the costs to replace it by malicious intent is too high due to transaction fees, the limit on 1 mutation and hence slow time to actually replace all of them or a majority is also to ensure human herd-behaviour doesnt make bad decisions.

Re: Ethereum price goes up nearly 50 percent in under a week

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"Clearly, it doesn't follow the 'intent' of the parties." And who is deciding what that intent? Right now, the mob, so the parent is right :) Your analogies to courts defeats the entire argument against that. Courts were, in fact, set up as deciders of that thing called "law". If code is law, so to speak, you don't need them. There is no intent.

> And who is deciding what that intent? Right now, the mob, so the parent is right :) Considering we can decide to abolish the constitution in America (or in any country) any time, does that mean we don't have a constitutional republic in America? Technically we can never say that we have a system X which is not Mob rule because the mob can always abolish it. Literally speaking, there is no such thing as 'code is law…

"Considering we can decide to abolish the constitution in America (or in any country) any time, does that mean we don't have a constitutional republic in America?"

The former is not correct, so the latter is nonsense. The constitution has no provision for abolishing it, the same as it does not have a provision allowing secession.

There is actually even caselaw on this, and it's very clear that it is about a perpetual union.

"Technically we can never say that we have a system X which is not Mob rule because the mob can always abolish it." That is 100% not what has happened here. In the constitutional system, there is a process for amending the constitution. it is not mob rule, or anything close to it. it is possible for basically 100% of the people to be against or for a thing, and them be unable to make it happen directly. (even if they call a constitutional convention, they send representatives, not a mob, etc)

In the other other case, the rules are 100% made up by whoever has the largest mob, directly. That is mob rule.

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