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2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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If you're used to the Mac's "force app to quit" Command-Option-Esc shortcut, it won't work from the touchbar if the app is unresponsive: https://twitter.com/technosucks/status/800831482608484352 "You might not be able to use the Esc button in the Touch Bar if the app you're using becomes unresponsive." https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT207358 Fortunately you can still force the Mac to shut down with the Touch ID butt…

"If you need to use Esc to force an app to close, you can switch to another app and try Option-Command-Escape. You can also choose Apple menu > Force Quit." https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT207358

Heh, that makes me think about Finder that is always open. What if Finder is the only app you have open, and it hangs?

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It is starting to feel like the "Pro" is actually more of a consumer toy for gaming and messing with Facebook rather than a real professional machine. I need to buy a new laptop today. For development, not to play games. The unix underpinning of MacOS always made their machines attractive, expensive, but attractive nonetheless. I'll go visit the Apple store and see but it is starting to look like it'll be a waste of…

If you're heading to Best Buy, what about a 2015 MPB? I would assume that like previous releases, they continue to sell the older model at a cheaper price.

I'll look at everything. Thanks.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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If you're used to the Mac's "force app to quit" Command-Option-Esc shortcut, it won't work from the touchbar if the app is unresponsive: https://twitter.com/technosucks/status/800831482608484352 "You might not be able to use the Esc button in the Touch Bar if the app you're using becomes unresponsive." https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT207358 Fortunately you can still force the Mac to shut down with the Touch ID butt…

"If you need to use Esc to force an app to close, you can switch to another app and try Option-Command-Escape. You can also choose Apple menu > Force Quit." https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT207358

Sometimes when I use XQuartz and Inkscape or some other X11 app on Mac, it will freeze such that you can't switch apps or use the Apple menu. Option-Command-Esc used to work...

In the video linked above the Apple menu also didn't appear to work, despite the mouse cursor moving, which matches my experiences.

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As to 3: the reason is cost. If you are using a cable with your power adapter, you are only using it for charging. To use a USB-C 3.1 cable for that is wasteful because it costs double what the charging/USB2 cable alone would cost. And yeah, it is going to confuse a lot of people.

Its a $2500 laptop. Apple should ship the cable.

If I buy a $2500 flight I get a toothbrush, why does the $2500 macbook not come with a toothbrush?

Edit: In case it wasn't obvious to the readers, the reason behind the missing toothbrush and missing USB-C 3.1 cable are the same.

Who the hell expects a toothbrush with their laptop? Or a random USB cable in that matter?

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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The escape key is still there, it's on the Touch Bar, I have no issues with using it, and I haven't had to re-map it. Also you can hit the 'fn' key and the 'Function' bar and escape key will appear while using any other 'app' that changes the Touch Bar.

I've been wondering about this. Does the 'fn' key force-change the touchbar to display F1-F12? If so, then I don't understand the folks bemoaning the lack of physical "function keys" from their apps, which I assume they mean that they use the F(n) keys, since the mechanics of this are the same. I'm a fast touch typist, but have never have hit F(n) keys accurately without glancing at the keyboard when I do use them, s…

> Does the 'fn' key force-change the touchbar to display F1-F12?

Yes it does

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Right now is a great time to score a 2015 model. Doesn't make sense to buy a new MacBook Pro until a 32 GB option is available imho.

That and the fact the new MacBook pro doesn't work with the majority of currently released thunderbolt 3 accessories that use that old to chipset.

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My understanding is that it's specifically the thunderbolt-2 adapter that doesn't support further adapting to other alternate mode mechanisms. This might be because of incompatibilities between TB2 and TB3/USB3.1 alternate mode implementations? It doesn't mean it can't do DP over a specific type-c to DP cable/dongle, which presumably are or will be a thing (eg: https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_displaypo…

If you have an existing Thunderbolt dock, you can use the 3-to-2 adapter, and just plug the DisplayPort monitor into the other Thunderbolt port on the dock. I do not know why this works, but it does.

Adding an extra adapter to the chain makes it work? That's crazy!

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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I have noticed that window resizing is a bit laggy on this machine, especially in apps like iTunes. I wonder if that has to do with the decision to use Intel's HD graphics instead of the Iris Pro on the 15. The Radeon probably isn't going to get activated every time I need to resize a window with a few graphics on it.

Also, I hope Apple fixes the palm rejection on the giant trackpad soon. I wind up accidentally activating Siri quite a lot.

Otherwise, good machine.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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If you're used to the Mac's "force app to quit" Command-Option-Esc shortcut, it won't work from the touchbar if the app is unresponsive: https://twitter.com/technosucks/status/800831482608484352 "You might not be able to use the Esc button in the Touch Bar if the app you're using becomes unresponsive." https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT207358 Fortunately you can still force the Mac to shut down with the Touch ID butt…

Remapping Caps Lock to ESC might resolve that. Enabling this remap is certainly the first thing I'll do when mine shows up.
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